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		By: Bobby		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Inclusive?. If the way Cape Town manages it is working them maybe we should learn something from that.. &lt;br&gt;And dropping the word GAY to make it &#039;more inclusive&#039; - what does that mean? To make it a mixed or heterosexual march?? Most of my friends are straight and they join me at Pride every year.. I wouldn&#039;t wan&#039;t people marching next to me in a parade that is &#039;inclusive&#039; if they would not do it when the word GAY was used before..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Inclusive?. If the way Cape Town manages it is working them maybe we should learn something from that.. <br />And dropping the word GAY to make it &#8216;more inclusive&#8217; &#8211; what does that mean? To make it a mixed or heterosexual march?? Most of my friends are straight and they join me at Pride every year.. I wouldn&#8217;t wan&#8217;t people marching next to me in a parade that is &#8216;inclusive&#8217; if they would not do it when the word GAY was used before..</p>
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		By: GS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4788&quot;&gt;Bobby&lt;/a&gt;.

Pride is all about being PROUD!. I agree... We should be proud of who we are where w&#039;ve come from and where we are going and want to go!&lt;br&gt;And I think thats the whole reason why many of our &quot;straight&quot; frinds and family join in - is because its GAY Pride... to support us and be part of who we are!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4788">Bobby</a>.</p>
<p>Pride is all about being PROUD!. I agree&#8230; We should be proud of who we are where w&#8217;ve come from and where we are going and want to go!<br />And I think thats the whole reason why many of our &#8220;straight&#8221; frinds and family join in &#8211; is because its GAY Pride&#8230; to support us and be part of who we are!</p>
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		By: Grant		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just do it !. What is wrong with us? We are usually the ones to come up with fabulous ideas and be the organisors!&lt;br&gt;Lets just come together and JUST DO IT!&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m in for sure! - and I don&#039;t just mean the fun but the work as well! Where do I sign up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Just do it !. What is wrong with us? We are usually the ones to come up with fabulous ideas and be the organisors!<br />Lets just come together and JUST DO IT!<br />I&#8217;m in for sure! &#8211; and I don&#8217;t just mean the fun but the work as well! Where do I sign up?</p>
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		By: aftermath		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4791</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[If you build it, they will come!. I&#039;m sorry, the reason we can&#039;t find backing for Pride is that the event sucks! Why would a company back an event that is &#039;ho hum&#039; and, in all honesty, gives little back?&lt;br&gt;I believe it&#039;s simple: Develop a sound strategy (with some thought!!) &#038; present a business plan to prospectives. If the idea is good, they WILL buy. &lt;br&gt;Once we have the backing, everything else is easy - the event is great, no one will want to miss it (gay &#038; Str8) and the sponsor gets their exposure.  It has to start with us..&lt;br&gt; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>If you build it, they will come!. I&#8217;m sorry, the reason we can&#8217;t find backing for Pride is that the event sucks! Why would a company back an event that is &#8216;ho hum&#8217; and, in all honesty, gives little back?<br />I believe it&#8217;s simple: Develop a sound strategy (with some thought!!) &amp; present a business plan to prospectives. If the idea is good, they WILL buy. <br />Once we have the backing, everything else is easy &#8211; the event is great, no one will want to miss it (gay &amp; Str8) and the sponsor gets their exposure.  It has to start with us.. </p>
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		By: Ian McMahon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4792</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pride Structure. Hi Everyone, and thanks for your comments. The biggest issue always in doing these events, is not so much the people to volunteer, but the many many hours of behind the scenes planning and organisation. The first thing that Jhb needs is structure. Register a Section 21 non profit company, and have a Board of Directors representing all the various LGBT org&#039;s &#038; groups, reps from bars/clubs etc. Start there at least!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In CT, our plan was simple - check out what Sydney are doing, and do something similar. At least in the begining, then get your own identity later, and make it uniquely Capetonian!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Build it around structure not people, as Liuz Says&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Come on Joburgers, get it together man, we all in CT love coming up for Pride!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian&lt;br&gt;Chairperson&lt;br&gt;Cape Town Pride Festival&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;www.capetownpride.co.za for more info&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Pride Structure. Hi Everyone, and thanks for your comments. The biggest issue always in doing these events, is not so much the people to volunteer, but the many many hours of behind the scenes planning and organisation. The first thing that Jhb needs is structure. Register a Section 21 non profit company, and have a Board of Directors representing all the various LGBT org&#8217;s &amp; groups, reps from bars/clubs etc. Start there at least!</p>
<p>In CT, our plan was simple &#8211; check out what Sydney are doing, and do something similar. At least in the begining, then get your own identity later, and make it uniquely Capetonian!</p>
<p>Build it around structure not people, as Liuz Says</p>
<p>Come on Joburgers, get it together man, we all in CT love coming up for Pride!</p>
<p>Ian<br />Chairperson<br />Cape Town Pride Festival</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capetownpride.co.za" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.capetownpride.co.za</a> for more info</p>
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		By: David Tozer		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4794</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Find out what other&#039;s do!. London Pride has been in existence for far longer, why don&#039;t interested parties visit: www.pridelondon.org&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am sure that they would be happy to give advise and direction (which Johannesburg seems to lack!). The back-biting and in-fighting should have ceased a long time ago, it does no-one any good. Myself and friends from Durban, have made a weekend visit to Johannesburg pride for 8 years except in 2005. This year, we will also not visit Johannesburg as we are celebrating our Pride in London on the 1st of July.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s quite sad; that we feel the necessity to spend our money and time elsewhere! However Johannesburg has consistently let itself down, by not being able to deliver upon simple expectations. Proper organisational structures and good business plans; really should be the backbone of the whole endeavour, I agree with &quot;Aftermath&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Find out what other&#8217;s do!. London Pride has been in existence for far longer, why don&#8217;t interested parties visit: <a href="http://www.pridelondon.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pridelondon.org</a></p>
<p>I am sure that they would be happy to give advise and direction (which Johannesburg seems to lack!). The back-biting and in-fighting should have ceased a long time ago, it does no-one any good. Myself and friends from Durban, have made a weekend visit to Johannesburg pride for 8 years except in 2005. This year, we will also not visit Johannesburg as we are celebrating our Pride in London on the 1st of July.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite sad; that we feel the necessity to spend our money and time elsewhere! However Johannesburg has consistently let itself down, by not being able to deliver upon simple expectations. Proper organisational structures and good business plans; really should be the backbone of the whole endeavour, I agree with &#8220;Aftermath&#8221;</p>
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		By: Queer Factor		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4795</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Pride. Ask the Nigerians to sponsor - they make the most money out of Pride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Pride. Ask the Nigerians to sponsor &#8211; they make the most money out of Pride.</p>
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		By: shenaaze 		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/05/11/joburg-pride-chaos/#comment-4797</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[jhb pride. what no pride what did our people then fight for if it&#039;s about money if every pride gay man or women give five rand at a door at a club we can make it work stand together and be counted for be a proud family love always drag queen shenaaze  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>jhb pride. what no pride what did our people then fight for if it&#8217;s about money if every pride gay man or women give five rand at a door at a club we can make it work stand together and be counted for be a proud family love always drag queen shenaaze  </p>
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		By: Roman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joburg Pride 2006. Yes all of you who want to get involved, put your money where your mouth is and come forward. There is always so much talk and no action every year. Contact Bath or Walker and give them the support they need. Many of you have decision making positions in companies, encourage your companies to be part of it. This year we need a big focus on HIV AND AIDS, about it Gary do your thing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Joburg Pride 2006. Yes all of you who want to get involved, put your money where your mouth is and come forward. There is always so much talk and no action every year. Contact Bath or Walker and give them the support they need. Many of you have decision making positions in companies, encourage your companies to be part of it. This year we need a big focus on HIV AND AIDS, about it Gary do your thing!</p>
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		By: Nigel K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel K]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Directors. While I think that Gary Bath can contribute much to the orgainstation, I would be horrified to have him run things this year after the mess he left last time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Setting up a &quot;board&quot; to run things is an excellent idea.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The starting point is obviously to find the directors, and given Mambaonlines concerns, perhpas they could / should host a &quot;space&quot; for &quot;concerned&quot; people / organistastions to nominate candidates.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are very few individuals who have Pauls experience and of course the time to make a success of this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Directors. While I think that Gary Bath can contribute much to the orgainstation, I would be horrified to have him run things this year after the mess he left last time.</p>
<p>Setting up a &#8220;board&#8221; to run things is an excellent idea.</p>
<p>The starting point is obviously to find the directors, and given Mambaonlines concerns, perhpas they could / should host a &#8220;space&#8221; for &#8220;concerned&#8221; people / organistastions to nominate candidates.  </p>
<p>There are very few individuals who have Pauls experience and of course the time to make a success of this.</p>
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