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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/08/17/heartlands-closes-its-doors/#comment-4931</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth be told!. Thank god it closed eventually! There is a flux from the gay community to not club as much as the in the days of Therapy. Ever since the city closed them down, it broke the speed and strength of the gay clubbing community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i for one enjoy more house parties these days and you wont find me in a club! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m glad it closed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Truth be told!. Thank god it closed eventually! There is a flux from the gay community to not club as much as the in the days of Therapy. Ever since the city closed them down, it broke the speed and strength of the gay clubbing community. </p>
<p>i for one enjoy more house parties these days and you wont find me in a club! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it closed!</p>
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		By: Bobby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exclusivity. Yeah clubbing in JHB has for the larger part lost it&#039;s appeal.. House party&#039;s are also the order of the day here - probably because it&#039;s more intimate and safer. I will still return to clubs on occasion but only really when something new or exclusive - then it&#039;s done. I think everyone seeks that new, exciting and exclusive element... It&#039;s a tough business I&#039;m sure - We want them there - but only when it&#039;s convenient for us - of course... ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Exclusivity. Yeah clubbing in JHB has for the larger part lost it&#8217;s appeal.. House party&#8217;s are also the order of the day here &#8211; probably because it&#8217;s more intimate and safer. I will still return to clubs on occasion but only really when something new or exclusive &#8211; then it&#8217;s done. I think everyone seeks that new, exciting and exclusive element&#8230; It&#8217;s a tough business I&#8217;m sure &#8211; We want them there &#8211; but only when it&#8217;s convenient for us &#8211; of course&#8230; </p>
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		By: TherapyFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TherapyFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DUH!!!. Is it really THAT surprising that no-one supported them? 90% of the time the venue was advertised as a hetero-hangout and later on there was more straight trashy type of people all over the dancefloor than there are moffies in joburg. It&#039;s not the venue that&#039;s the problem, it&#039;s the way it was marketed and managed. I think the owners should rethink their strategy... They obviously have not been in the business of gay entertainment for very long. Something has to be exclusively gay or it will not work!! It&#039;s not rocket science...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I walked in there a few weeks ago and the place was overrun by drunks all over and the screaming at each other outside. Hanging around the little vood vendor stall thing. I can assure you, I DO NOT WANT TO CLUB THERE. Not if that&#039;s the type of people it&#039;s going to attract. Has anyone that set up the Heartlands ever had or planned on attaining any business management experience / qualifications. It was a miserable oversold failure from the launch evening till it&#039;s demise...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>DUH!!!. Is it really THAT surprising that no-one supported them? 90% of the time the venue was advertised as a hetero-hangout and later on there was more straight trashy type of people all over the dancefloor than there are moffies in joburg. It&#8217;s not the venue that&#8217;s the problem, it&#8217;s the way it was marketed and managed. I think the owners should rethink their strategy&#8230; They obviously have not been in the business of gay entertainment for very long. Something has to be exclusively gay or it will not work!! It&#8217;s not rocket science&#8230;</p>
<p>I walked in there a few weeks ago and the place was overrun by drunks all over and the screaming at each other outside. Hanging around the little vood vendor stall thing. I can assure you, I DO NOT WANT TO CLUB THERE. Not if that&#8217;s the type of people it&#8217;s going to attract. Has anyone that set up the Heartlands ever had or planned on attaining any business management experience / qualifications. It was a miserable oversold failure from the launch evening till it&#8217;s demise&#8230;</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/08/17/heartlands-closes-its-doors/#comment-4934</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RUDE C*NTS!!. I have never come across such rudeness and disrespect from staff as at that stupid DCM. Friends of mine have been barred entry because they were wearing the wrong type of takkies. And that while there were people inside wearing slip-slops, for god&#039;s sake.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What goes around, comes around! I am CHEERING at the thought of that place closing down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>RUDE C*NTS!!. I have never come across such rudeness and disrespect from staff as at that stupid DCM. Friends of mine have been barred entry because they were wearing the wrong type of takkies. And that while there were people inside wearing slip-slops, for god&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>What goes around, comes around! I am CHEERING at the thought of that place closing down.</p>
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		By: Sandtonboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/08/17/heartlands-closes-its-doors/#comment-4935</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandtonboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HIP HIP HOORAH!!. I live 4 minutes away from there, yet for the past year I&#039;ve been gritting my teeth to rather go clubbing either on the East Rand or in Pretoria.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because DCM was CRAP!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clubbing is not dead. DCM is!  Three cheers for that one!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>HIP HIP HOORAH!!. I live 4 minutes away from there, yet for the past year I&#8217;ve been gritting my teeth to rather go clubbing either on the East Rand or in Pretoria.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because DCM was CRAP!!</p>
<p>Clubbing is not dead. DCM is!  Three cheers for that one!!!</p>
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		By: Frankie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[too bad so sad. the club had barely opened and we were all told it was up for sale...some commitment.....one would go there to discover they wernt opening the outside bar,so one had to die of the effing heat inside.......the outside was the best part...why would u not open!!!...the attitude of the bouncers was asstounding...u would think they were doing u a favour!!!the barmen would ignor one and serve all the bitches that came there...i thought it was meant to be a Gay  club! If u were a woman and sixteen u were waved in to the club ahead of everyone!.....treat your guests like shit andthey dont come back!!!good luck to Ramps!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>too bad so sad. the club had barely opened and we were all told it was up for sale&#8230;some commitment&#8230;..one would go there to discover they wernt opening the outside bar,so one had to die of the effing heat inside&#8230;&#8230;.the outside was the best part&#8230;why would u not open!!!&#8230;the attitude of the bouncers was asstounding&#8230;u would think they were doing u a favour!!!the barmen would ignor one and serve all the bitches that came there&#8230;i thought it was meant to be a Gay  club! If u were a woman and sixteen u were waved in to the club ahead of everyone!&#8230;..treat your guests like shit andthey dont come back!!!good luck to Ramps!!!!!</p>
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		By: Sebastian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sebastian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WE NEED A GAY VENUE. I too am glad it has closed but we do need a decent gay club in Jhb. Hopefully someone who knows the gay market will atke it over and run it as a gay club - no label free clubbing. Think that Bruce is to blame from the start...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>WE NEED A GAY VENUE. I too am glad it has closed but we do need a decent gay club in Jhb. Hopefully someone who knows the gay market will atke it over and run it as a gay club &#8211; no label free clubbing. Think that Bruce is to blame from the start&#8230;</p>
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		By: sabelo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MEN OF COLOUR&quot;. how dare u. where do u get off? i&#039;m referring 2 that stupid mambaonline reporter. simply blue is not a club of &quot;MEN OF COLOUR&quot;! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and just exactly what is MEN OF COLOUR?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if i didn&#039;t know any better i&#039;d say that was a racist comment. i have seen dozens of men @ that club,regardless of their colour. it pains my butt that there r still people who write the way u do...SIES!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>MEN OF COLOUR&#8221;. how dare u. where do u get off? i&#8217;m referring 2 that stupid mambaonline reporter. simply blue is not a club of &#8220;MEN OF COLOUR&#8221;! </p>
<p>and just exactly what is MEN OF COLOUR?</p>
<p>if i didn&#8217;t know any better i&#8217;d say that was a racist comment. i have seen dozens of men @ that club,regardless of their colour. it pains my butt that there r still people who write the way u do&#8230;SIES!</p>
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		By: gski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/08/17/heartlands-closes-its-doors/#comment-4938&quot;&gt;sabelo&lt;/a&gt;.

Men of Colour. I can&#039;t find fault with sabelo&#039;s argument here - or with anyone else&#039;s comments regarding the demise of Heartlands.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Mambaonline Reporter&quot; (cleary carefully remaining anonymous) - shoving a comment like that in inverted commas in the hopes of being able to attribute it as a quote from another source or pay-off line is just swak styl. In addition - to even go there with a comment like that in the face of the prejudices the gay community in most countries STILL faces is just plain insensitive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who cares what they spent on tarting up a shabby end of town? If you can&#039;t read your market, and you can&#039;t provide what they&#039;re looking for, expect failure. Why support something that offers you nothing? Labelling the people you wanted support from as &quot;fickle&quot; is sour grapes. Be realistic - Heartland over-promised and under-delivered. I&#039;m not  a fan of Peter Cheales - but go get yourself a copy of &quot;I used to be your  customer&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Face it - it&#039;s failed. Instead of looking for someone to blame, try analysing the reasons for failure objectively - and avoid making the same mistakes next time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2006/08/17/heartlands-closes-its-doors/#comment-4938">sabelo</a>.</p>
<p>Men of Colour. I can&#8217;t find fault with sabelo&#8217;s argument here &#8211; or with anyone else&#8217;s comments regarding the demise of Heartlands.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mambaonline Reporter&#8221; (cleary carefully remaining anonymous) &#8211; shoving a comment like that in inverted commas in the hopes of being able to attribute it as a quote from another source or pay-off line is just swak styl. In addition &#8211; to even go there with a comment like that in the face of the prejudices the gay community in most countries STILL faces is just plain insensitive.</p>
<p>Who cares what they spent on tarting up a shabby end of town? If you can&#8217;t read your market, and you can&#8217;t provide what they&#8217;re looking for, expect failure. Why support something that offers you nothing? Labelling the people you wanted support from as &#8220;fickle&#8221; is sour grapes. Be realistic &#8211; Heartland over-promised and under-delivered. I&#8217;m not  a fan of Peter Cheales &#8211; but go get yourself a copy of &#8220;I used to be your  customer&#8221;. </p>
<p>Face it &#8211; it&#8217;s failed. Instead of looking for someone to blame, try analysing the reasons for failure objectively &#8211; and avoid making the same mistakes next time.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank Goodness !!. I&#039;ve been waiting for this moment for a very long time Finally it came I mean really, how can u not be allowed to go into a club because u are wearing shorts? They were disgner short for gooness sake BUT we had to argue for a very long time with those stupid security guards until the manager intervened That was the last time I went in that hell I&#039;m glad it closed down That&#039;s what happens if u arrogant Cheers !!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Thank Goodness !!. I&#8217;ve been waiting for this moment for a very long time Finally it came I mean really, how can u not be allowed to go into a club because u are wearing shorts? They were disgner short for gooness sake BUT we had to argue for a very long time with those stupid security guards until the manager intervened That was the last time I went in that hell I&#8217;m glad it closed down That&#8217;s what happens if u arrogant Cheers !!!!!!!!!!</p>
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