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		By: Ian McMahon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Join Pride!. The next Pride AGM is Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 2pm at the Beaulah Bar in Somerset Street. Please join us and volunteer to sit on the committee of Pride and help create Pride events for the entire community. Here is a vehicle on how YOU can get invloved today! We need more representation on the committee - so join us. e-mail info@capetownpride.co.za for more info.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Join Pride!. The next Pride AGM is Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 2pm at the Beaulah Bar in Somerset Street. Please join us and volunteer to sit on the committee of Pride and help create Pride events for the entire community. Here is a vehicle on how YOU can get invloved today! We need more representation on the committee &#8211; so join us. e-mail <a href="mailto:info@capetownpride.co.za">info@capetownpride.co.za</a> for more info.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gay Venues. We do not have enough choices in Cape Town.Stargayzer is nice but is the only club  where black gay people can have a great time and still have our dignity in tack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Gay Venues. We do not have enough choices in Cape Town.Stargayzer is nice but is the only club  where black gay people can have a great time and still have our dignity in tack.</p>
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		By: Jesus das Asun??es		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[black cape town. realistically speaking, in order to have a black gay scene in cape town, you would need to have a viable black middle class in cape town, and as we all know, that does not exist. as i say to my black middle class friends, every black middle class capetonian is either foreign or works for the government. south african black middle class people, for various and somewhat justified reasons, want absolutely no part of cape town. after nearly 4 years here, i never thought i would miss the uber-racist spanish-speaking caribbean, from which i come, but it looks like i will be moving back *there* rather than dealing with this kak that is cape town. (im black, from a spanish-speaking island, and resident in cape town.) the plus side about returning to the caribbean is that new york is only a 4 hour flight away, and there is PLENTY of black gay nightlife there, not to mention some of the downlow places on some of the other islands, which are black by default. cape town is almost as messed up as rio de janeiro (another place with lots of black gays, but no black spots), and for many of the same reasons. at the end of the day you need MONEY, and the kind of money necessary just is not within reach of black capetonians. south african &quot;black diamonds&quot; don&#039;t live here, and given how hard it is as a black foreigner to get something as measly as a cellphone contract even when you have a million rand in the bank, trying to secure facilities to house a nightclub, insurance, a bank loan for the building, etc etc etc as a foreigner? forget it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>black cape town. realistically speaking, in order to have a black gay scene in cape town, you would need to have a viable black middle class in cape town, and as we all know, that does not exist. as i say to my black middle class friends, every black middle class capetonian is either foreign or works for the government. south african black middle class people, for various and somewhat justified reasons, want absolutely no part of cape town. after nearly 4 years here, i never thought i would miss the uber-racist spanish-speaking caribbean, from which i come, but it looks like i will be moving back *there* rather than dealing with this kak that is cape town. (im black, from a spanish-speaking island, and resident in cape town.) the plus side about returning to the caribbean is that new york is only a 4 hour flight away, and there is PLENTY of black gay nightlife there, not to mention some of the downlow places on some of the other islands, which are black by default. cape town is almost as messed up as rio de janeiro (another place with lots of black gays, but no black spots), and for many of the same reasons. at the end of the day you need MONEY, and the kind of money necessary just is not within reach of black capetonians. south african &#8220;black diamonds&#8221; don&#8217;t live here, and given how hard it is as a black foreigner to get something as measly as a cellphone contract even when you have a million rand in the bank, trying to secure facilities to house a nightclub, insurance, a bank loan for the building, etc etc etc as a foreigner? forget it. </p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[ppl there like to steel(stella queens and back bit like braidly retreat and others!!thank u very much]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>ppl there like to steel(stella queens and back bit like braidly retreat and others!!thank u very much</p>
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		By: zain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5965&quot;&gt;colouredguy&lt;/a&gt;.

hallo alll. hallo all!!!stargazers is4drama  queens!!mixit poppys and the drag gang frm m/plain, hanoverpark and the cape flats please watch u pockets the gals there are stella queens!!!! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5965">colouredguy</a>.</p>
<p>hallo alll. hallo all!!!stargazers is4drama  queens!!mixit poppys and the drag gang frm m/plain, hanoverpark and the cape flats please watch u pockets the gals there are stella queens!!!! </p>
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		By: sandyboy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[black gay clubs. i stirred the pot last time with my observations of complacency in the gay scene in south africa, especially capetown, and now it seems someone else is taking up the challenge. i mean no disrespect to vista kalipa or his article but let&#039;s look at the reality. it costs money to go out and quite frankly i believe the reason we don&#039;t see more black clubs for gay men is it just cost too damn much to open a place and keep it going. let&#039;s not forget that horrible incident a few years back when some gay black men were denied entrance into bronx. and how do you get from the suburbs to town when taxis are so bloody expensive if you don&#039;t live in town...and who can afford that these days? i think a look at the economics of the situation is far more telling. i&#039;ve lived in many cities where gay neighborhoods thrive and most of the time the people who frequent the clubs live in the area. i don&#039;t know of many black people who own  houses in the waterkant. i know alot of black gay people who are stuck at home on weekends afraid to go out because of what may happen to them when they return home if it&#039;s discovered they are gay or frequent gay clubs. i know even more people who just don&#039;t have the money to spend going out and having to pay 15 bucks for a beer. we need a proper sustainable gay community that supports each other regardless of colour or status. a gay community of men and women who stand together with pride and nurturing for each other. maybe being gay has become a rich white lifestyle after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>black gay clubs. i stirred the pot last time with my observations of complacency in the gay scene in south africa, especially capetown, and now it seems someone else is taking up the challenge. i mean no disrespect to vista kalipa or his article but let&#8217;s look at the reality. it costs money to go out and quite frankly i believe the reason we don&#8217;t see more black clubs for gay men is it just cost too damn much to open a place and keep it going. let&#8217;s not forget that horrible incident a few years back when some gay black men were denied entrance into bronx. and how do you get from the suburbs to town when taxis are so bloody expensive if you don&#8217;t live in town&#8230;and who can afford that these days? i think a look at the economics of the situation is far more telling. i&#8217;ve lived in many cities where gay neighborhoods thrive and most of the time the people who frequent the clubs live in the area. i don&#8217;t know of many black people who own  houses in the waterkant. i know alot of black gay people who are stuck at home on weekends afraid to go out because of what may happen to them when they return home if it&#8217;s discovered they are gay or frequent gay clubs. i know even more people who just don&#8217;t have the money to spend going out and having to pay 15 bucks for a beer. we need a proper sustainable gay community that supports each other regardless of colour or status. a gay community of men and women who stand together with pride and nurturing for each other. maybe being gay has become a rich white lifestyle after all.</p>
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		By: zandre		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5968&quot;&gt;Warren&lt;/a&gt;.

Is that the only thing that we are concern about. Are gay and being gay the on;y issue we are concern about, let first be human, and be concern about our sexuality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5968">Warren</a>.</p>
<p>Is that the only thing that we are concern about. Are gay and being gay the on;y issue we are concern about, let first be human, and be concern about our sexuality.</p>
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		By: Randall Louwson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Black people should become more visible! . If there are people who know how to party,then its black and coloured people.We are supporting venues like &quot;Mzoli&#039;s&quot; in Gugulethu,why not starting something similar like that for gays and lesbians,especially &quot;black gays and lesbians&quot;.We know how to do these things but still we are scared of failure.Please people,let&#039;s see a venue in Cape Town where blacks can feel free to express there sexuality and be proud to be &quot;Out and proudly African&quot;. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Black people should become more visible! . If there are people who know how to party,then its black and coloured people.We are supporting venues like &#8220;Mzoli&#8217;s&#8221; in Gugulethu,why not starting something similar like that for gays and lesbians,especially &#8220;black gays and lesbians&#8221;.We know how to do these things but still we are scared of failure.Please people,let&#8217;s see a venue in Cape Town where blacks can feel free to express there sexuality and be proud to be &#8220;Out and proudly African&#8221;. </p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5965&quot;&gt;colouredguy&lt;/a&gt;.

Parow Gay !. You see I am Gay live in the northern suburbs and have never headr of stargazers .... weher is it ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2007/06/21/get-up-and-do-something/#comment-5965">colouredguy</a>.</p>
<p>Parow Gay !. You see I am Gay live in the northern suburbs and have never headr of stargazers &#8230;. weher is it ?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Invisible Gay !. I think it&#039;s high time that all gay people in Cape Town support the gay venues. but then on the other hand if more gay themed parties are arranged maybe we will see a shift ..... were are the go-go boys etc ........ Cruz was so average I have just returned from the UK and there gay themed parties are extremely well organised and supported !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Invisible Gay !. I think it&#8217;s high time that all gay people in Cape Town support the gay venues. but then on the other hand if more gay themed parties are arranged maybe we will see a shift &#8230;.. were are the go-go boys etc &#8230;&#8230;.. Cruz was so average I have just returned from the UK and there gay themed parties are extremely well organised and supported !!</p>
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