Comments on: 4 STAR GUESTHOUSE “NOT GAY FRIENDLY”

By: puyi.. again

puyi.. again — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to puyi. Thanks!. Nice to see a real man post an intelligent reply with his own name.. (not)

By: puyi

puyi — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to morne.

Dear St. Morne… .. when I need and your BF to fight my battles for me or to prejudge my point of view regarding the rest of society, I’ll flush!

You want to create a little campaign? You go right ahead! Count me out! And the whole “getting thrown out of church because he’s gay” argument is just so hackneyed.. There are different – and more successful – ways of dealing with the loud and proud gay vs straight issues, than your approach. Either get off your pedestal or apply more lube!

By: puyi

puyi — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Johan.

What a stupid suggestion. It’s a matter of time b4 the whole Christian vs. moffie thing crops up again I guess, so I’ll just jump in.. I’m a gay Christian – the two definitions are not necessarily mutually exclusive. to create a “poor Christian household” is anathema to me.. What a foolish suggestion!

By: puyi

puyi — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to practical.

Agree!. All of us have had to face homophobia in it’s ugliest form, but to FORCE establishments to put up with our sexuality just because they feel miffed is a bit rich. Just as I respect a straight person’s right to his sexuality, I expect the same. If the guests had explained the interpretation of gay friendly (which as we know in our culture, ranges from mere acceptance to raunchy face licking in public), I would have made a better informed decision. Sorry gay guys – I’m with the straights on this one.

By: wynand

wynand — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Let’s get it right. Why do people feel that asking is provocative? Better to know what you are dealing with than getting stranded in the middle of nowhere with no alternative choices, especially if you are on business and don’t have time to waste. We cannot keep on living like second class citizens; this guesthouse is flying in the face of the constitution and is now using religion to mask their bigotry. The longer we sit around too scared to offend or provoke the longer people will assume that it is acceptable to treat us with ignorant fear and contempt.

By: morne

morne — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

guest. Guys, I am the one half of the couple that were told to piss off by this guesthouse. As everyone in a relationship knows there are 2 opposites – cos they attract. Johan my boyfriend made the booking – he’s the shy one, so he decided to check their gay friendliness. I am the motormouth in the relationship, and NO I would not have asked. But am I ever so FRIGGIN’ glad he did! Johan has a history of being shunned by so called christians, so perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction of his to check. He studied to become a minister and was chased away from the church when they learned he was gay. Perhaps that should shed some light on – why he checked.
The reason I am making such a huge issue about this whole debacle is because none of us ever bother to stand up for our rights. We enjoy them when other people fight tooth and nail to get them for us. But when it’s time to stand up for our rights, we sit and judge those who have the guts to say something. We all seem to think that because we can get married etc, all’s right with this world, but the behaviour of this guesthouse clearly proves it is not. Can you imagine what would have happened if we rocked up and the SHOCKING discovery was made. And if that had happened we would not have this email as proof of this blatant discrimination. So NO we were certainly NOT trying to provoke any reaction. Johan does not have one provocative bone in his body. We’re doing this for all of you and all the people who have been downtrodden before us. Sometimes this kind of thing turns real bad and when we hear about some gay person bashed or killed by this, we just shake our heads and go on with our lives. I don’t want to do that anymore. So to all our GAY critics out there just sitting on your perky little asses flinging your own judgements around, please reconsider and rally behind us. This is going to the equality court and it will be HUGE for us when we win. We have a couple of heavy weights behind us that feel very strongly about this. So next time you enjoy your freedom, just remember it didn’t just happen. Someone like Johan and I had to withstand a good beating and listen to some really ugly stuff to make freedom possible. It makes me nauseous to think we’re getting flack from fellow homosexuals.

By: practical

practical — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Robanaurochs. No room in the inn? . It's all very good and well to simply arrive at accomodation and see if the owners are bold enough to cancel the booking face to face... but where do you stay if there is suddenly 'no room in the inn?'

Are gay travelers expected to make a 'back-up' booking at alternative accomodation on the off chance that homophobic owners excersise thier right of admission? The practical side of me says I would rather establish gay friendliness of an establishment prior to hitting the road, but at the same time I agree that sending a 'the gays are comming e-mail' is perhaps not the best way.

I would either try book into accomodation that advertises it's welcome to gay guests or... failing that send a less provocative e-mail, simply confirming the booking with my name and my partners name :-)

By: JJ

JJ — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Johan. I agree. Yeah lets do that...

By: Johan

Johan — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Lets launch a campaign. Let everyone know about this guest house, start an sms campaign. Money usually talks … let them become a poor “christian” household …

By: Robanaurochs

Robanaurochs — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to DUCKIE. Normal ?. I agree with your opening comment. There is no justification for questioning the gay-friendliness of an establishment unless there was a slight anticipation of a negative response.

If it was I that booked the place, I would not have mentioned my orientation. I would just have pitched up. If they had a problem with me they should say it to me face to face.

The truth is that it's easy for homophobic people to lash out over the phone but they're usually cowards otherwise. This would give the opportunity for the owners to see that there really is no difference between a straight and a gay couple.

As to Duckie's comments about "normal" gay people. I think this is a bit harsh but I see where you're coming from. I would never imply that there are abnormal people though.