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		By: j9		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6657&quot;&gt;Pulverturm&lt;/a&gt;.

reply. yes, and by flip flopping and sitting on the fence by allowing a &quot;vote of conscience&quot;, the DA doesn&#039;t actually have to address any serious issues...how convenient. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6657">Pulverturm</a>.</p>
<p>reply. yes, and by flip flopping and sitting on the fence by allowing a &#8220;vote of conscience&#8221;, the DA doesn&#8217;t actually have to address any serious issues&#8230;how convenient. </p>
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		By: beanearb4		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6637&quot;&gt;ROLANDO&lt;/a&gt;.

Same rights?. In case you haven&#039;t noticed, you have the same rights as everyone else. Maybe you want special rights?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6637">ROLANDO</a>.</p>
<p>Same rights?. In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, you have the same rights as everyone else. Maybe you want special rights?!</p>
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		By: ROLANDO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6633&quot;&gt;beanearb4&lt;/a&gt;.

Selfish.... I&#039;m sure you do live your life as you are and enjoy every moment, but you probably don&#039;t concern yourself with the people that don&#039;t have that luxury. If you choose to happily live as a second-class citizen that is indeed your choice - but it&#039;s not mine. I demand the same rights as every other human being. For that I make no apology...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6633">beanearb4</a>.</p>
<p>Selfish&#8230;. I&#8217;m sure you do live your life as you are and enjoy every moment, but you probably don&#8217;t concern yourself with the people that don&#8217;t have that luxury. If you choose to happily live as a second-class citizen that is indeed your choice &#8211; but it&#8217;s not mine. I demand the same rights as every other human being. For that I make no apology&#8230;</p>
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		By: beanearb4		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6632&quot;&gt;Conangraham&lt;/a&gt;.

Ag pleeeaaase.... You really are your own worst enemies. I have to agree with that much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6632">Conangraham</a>.</p>
<p>Ag pleeeaaase&#8230;. You really are your own worst enemies. I have to agree with that much.</p>
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		By: beanearb4		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6629&quot;&gt;ROLANDO&lt;/a&gt;.

Blah..blah.... Got the point. Don&#039;t agree. Don&#039;t advertise your ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6629">ROLANDO</a>.</p>
<p>Blah..blah&#8230;. Got the point. Don&#8217;t agree. Don&#8217;t advertise your ignorance.</p>
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		By: beanearb4		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6630&quot;&gt;ROLANDO&lt;/a&gt;.

choice...again. That&#039;s your viewpoint. One that you chose and you&#039;re welcome to it. It does show your own prejudice though and it is about as unattractive as a pimple on the tip of your nose. May be the reason a lot of people hate gays; i.e. your outspoken viewpoint becomes the stereotype by which all gays are judged. We are not and do not all think the same. Remember, I am as gay as you are. Because of my chosen viewpoint I do not see discrimination against us or the &quot;homophobia&quot; (a bad misnomer) everywhere. I just live the way I am and enjoy every moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6630">ROLANDO</a>.</p>
<p>choice&#8230;again. That&#8217;s your viewpoint. One that you chose and you&#8217;re welcome to it. It does show your own prejudice though and it is about as unattractive as a pimple on the tip of your nose. May be the reason a lot of people hate gays; i.e. your outspoken viewpoint becomes the stereotype by which all gays are judged. We are not and do not all think the same. Remember, I am as gay as you are. Because of my chosen viewpoint I do not see discrimination against us or the &#8220;homophobia&#8221; (a bad misnomer) everywhere. I just live the way I am and enjoy every moment.</p>
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		By: Conangraham		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[With friends like these.... Well put and argued Melanie, as always. The other comments are really silly and completely fail to understand - remain in your ghettos people - it seems the only place where you can make sense of your lives. The rest of us will try to live honest, open and informed lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>With friends like these&#8230;. Well put and argued Melanie, as always. The other comments are really silly and completely fail to understand &#8211; remain in your ghettos people &#8211; it seems the only place where you can make sense of your lives. The rest of us will try to live honest, open and informed lives.</p>
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		By: ROLANDO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6628&quot;&gt;beanearb4&lt;/a&gt;.

Brainwashed. You&#039;re brain-washed! Why should people accepting us be a choice? It is a goddamn right! Should public servants be allowed to refuse to give someone an ID book because they are Indian or they don&#039;t like their religion? Or should they be allowed to refuse to marry a straight couple? Of course not - so why should they do so with a same-sex couple? You&#039;re clearly a victim of internalized homophobia and buy into the common notion that being gay is a lifestyle. Bullshit! Being gay is part of who I am - like having brown eyes or blond hair. I had no choice in the matter. Jeez, you are your own worst enemy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/03/10/with-friends-like-these/#comment-6628">beanearb4</a>.</p>
<p>Brainwashed. You&#8217;re brain-washed! Why should people accepting us be a choice? It is a goddamn right! Should public servants be allowed to refuse to give someone an ID book because they are Indian or they don&#8217;t like their religion? Or should they be allowed to refuse to marry a straight couple? Of course not &#8211; so why should they do so with a same-sex couple? You&#8217;re clearly a victim of internalized homophobia and buy into the common notion that being gay is a lifestyle. Bullshit! Being gay is part of who I am &#8211; like having brown eyes or blond hair. I had no choice in the matter. Jeez, you are your own worst enemy!</p>
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		By: ROLANDO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re missing the point. Re-read the article. While the author is indeed pro-choice, the article is not about that: it is actually about the state allowing public servants to make choices of personal morality about implementing government (and in the case of same-sex marriage, constitutional) policy. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>You&#8217;re missing the point. Re-read the article. While the author is indeed pro-choice, the article is not about that: it is actually about the state allowing public servants to make choices of personal morality about implementing government (and in the case of same-sex marriage, constitutional) policy. </p>
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		By: beanearb4		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Choice!. The writer of this article is a twit. Being gay does not equate to being pro choice. Even more important is the fact that, if we want to be allowed our choice of lifestyle, we have to allow others the choice to either perform abortions or same sex marriage or not as they choose based on their principles and value systems. Would you believe that some gay people are not rushing to get married even though they are openly in successful long term relationships? Why? Because it is our choice! Do not project your own pitiful views on society as a whole. You may be surprised to find that the majority do not agree with you, and being a supposedly enlightened individual, you should welcome these differences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Choice!. The writer of this article is a twit. Being gay does not equate to being pro choice. Even more important is the fact that, if we want to be allowed our choice of lifestyle, we have to allow others the choice to either perform abortions or same sex marriage or not as they choose based on their principles and value systems. Would you believe that some gay people are not rushing to get married even though they are openly in successful long term relationships? Why? Because it is our choice! Do not project your own pitiful views on society as a whole. You may be surprised to find that the majority do not agree with you, and being a supposedly enlightened individual, you should welcome these differences.</p>
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