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		By: Evil Green Man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Green Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[worth every penny?. 1. How many people can u feed spending that much? (Then again, who really wants the breeders to procreate? I&#039;d say there are enough people in this world.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. How many pennies will these cars be worth in 3 years?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Fancy cars mr Valentyn, always an interesting read, but let&#039;s just enjoy these cars for test drives and not everyday?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Evil Green Man]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>worth every penny?. 1. How many people can u feed spending that much? (Then again, who really wants the breeders to procreate? I&#8217;d say there are enough people in this world.)</p>
<p>2. How many pennies will these cars be worth in 3 years?</p>
<p>3. Fancy cars mr Valentyn, always an interesting read, but let&#8217;s just enjoy these cars for test drives and not everyday?</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>The Evil Green Man</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[sick. It is mind boggling that R730k could be considered &#039;value for money&#039;. It relates to an impressively skewed view of reality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These cars fuck the planet and society in almost equal measure. Thoroughly disgusted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>sick. It is mind boggling that R730k could be considered &#8216;value for money&#8217;. It relates to an impressively skewed view of reality.</p>
<p>These cars fuck the planet and society in almost equal measure. Thoroughly disgusted.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7892&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Sick?. Firstly, it is indeed mind boggling that these vehicles can be considered value for money with their list prices in excess of R700k each. However, if you read carefully you will notice neither of them were labelled &#039;value for money&#039; - not once. If you were a motoring entusiast and could appreciate what these vehicles can do, you would also know that the author&#039;s choice of words - &#039;worth every penny&#039; - doesn&#039;t relate to value for money at all. Paying that much for a car might be blasphemy to you, but that doesn&#039;t mean it relates to a skew view of reality. For many, this is reality. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Secondly, be careful when generalising about who and what is fucking the planet... The X6 has an average CO2-emissions figure of 283g/km, with the Q7 on 348g/km. Then take into consideration that in a month like September, Audi sold 34 Q7s (not necessarily the model in the article) and BMW 37 X6&#039;s (also not necessarily the model in the article). On an average daily commute of 40km, those combined owners released an estimated 892.12kg of CO2 into the air. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, also in September, Volkswagen sold 2 317 Polos. With an average CO2 emissions figure of 196g/km over that same 40km average daily commute, the Polo owners released 18 165.28 kg of CO2 into the air. The 1 756 Toyota Yaris owners released 11 308.64kg into the air, and the 1 222 Volswagen Citi owners 10 362.56kg. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Owners of big, luxury, super powerful and super fast SUVs may be fucking society by flaunting what they have, but get real - it&#039;s those who live in your so-called &quot;reality&quot; that&#039;s really fucking the earth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7892">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Sick?. Firstly, it is indeed mind boggling that these vehicles can be considered value for money with their list prices in excess of R700k each. However, if you read carefully you will notice neither of them were labelled &#8216;value for money&#8217; &#8211; not once. If you were a motoring entusiast and could appreciate what these vehicles can do, you would also know that the author&#8217;s choice of words &#8211; &#8216;worth every penny&#8217; &#8211; doesn&#8217;t relate to value for money at all. Paying that much for a car might be blasphemy to you, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it relates to a skew view of reality. For many, this is reality. </p>
<p>Secondly, be careful when generalising about who and what is fucking the planet&#8230; The X6 has an average CO2-emissions figure of 283g/km, with the Q7 on 348g/km. Then take into consideration that in a month like September, Audi sold 34 Q7s (not necessarily the model in the article) and BMW 37 X6&#8217;s (also not necessarily the model in the article). On an average daily commute of 40km, those combined owners released an estimated 892.12kg of CO2 into the air. </p>
<p>Now, also in September, Volkswagen sold 2 317 Polos. With an average CO2 emissions figure of 196g/km over that same 40km average daily commute, the Polo owners released 18 165.28 kg of CO2 into the air. The 1 756 Toyota Yaris owners released 11 308.64kg into the air, and the 1 222 Volswagen Citi owners 10 362.56kg. </p>
<p>Owners of big, luxury, super powerful and super fast SUVs may be fucking society by flaunting what they have, but get real &#8211; it&#8217;s those who live in your so-called &#8220;reality&#8221; that&#8217;s really fucking the earth.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7893&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

very sick indeed. Using your calculations, had the 71 new Q7 and X6 drivers rather chosen a smaller car (in your example, the Polo), then they would have emitted 335.48 kg LESS CO2.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SUVs deliver a fuck your planet attitude complete with leather interior. 1 to 1, the Yaris&#039;s and Polo&#039;s tend to transport exactly the same amount of people as those overgrown, armour-plated dildo-esque pomposities that are the Q7&#039;s and X6&#039;s of this world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what is possibly the most surprising is that Q7 and X6 drivers know what driving those cars do and mean and that they still drive them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7893">Paul</a>.</p>
<p>very sick indeed. Using your calculations, had the 71 new Q7 and X6 drivers rather chosen a smaller car (in your example, the Polo), then they would have emitted 335.48 kg LESS CO2.</p>
<p>SUVs deliver a fuck your planet attitude complete with leather interior. 1 to 1, the Yaris&#8217;s and Polo&#8217;s tend to transport exactly the same amount of people as those overgrown, armour-plated dildo-esque pomposities that are the Q7&#8217;s and X6&#8217;s of this world.</p>
<p>But what is possibly the most surprising is that Q7 and X6 drivers know what driving those cars do and mean and that they still drive them.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7895&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, if it&#039;s not really about an eco-consciousness, I&#039;d rather drive a Q7 or an X6. Fuck society, never mind the planet!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7895">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Well, if it&#8217;s not really about an eco-consciousness, I&#8217;d rather drive a Q7 or an X6. Fuck society, never mind the planet!</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7900&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

Confirmation. If ever there was confirmation required as to the contempt SUV drivers deserve, you just provided it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7900">Paul</a>.</p>
<p>Confirmation. If ever there was confirmation required as to the contempt SUV drivers deserve, you just provided it.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7901&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Confirmation. Well, it&#039;s obvious you have a severe gripe with SUV owners... If it makes you feel all better to insult people who can afford excellent vehicles, feel free to treat them with contempt. In the spirit of Christmas, I hope you never run into anyone who feels the same way about something you do, own or condone! Merry Christmas!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2008/12/17/motoring-diesel-dynamos/#comment-7901">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Confirmation. Well, it&#8217;s obvious you have a severe gripe with SUV owners&#8230; If it makes you feel all better to insult people who can afford excellent vehicles, feel free to treat them with contempt. In the spirit of Christmas, I hope you never run into anyone who feels the same way about something you do, own or condone! Merry Christmas!</p>
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		By: Jaco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cost effective?. Could someone please do the calculation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Additional cost of a diesel engined vehicle + additional cost of diesel fuel versus saving in fuel consumption&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it still cost effective to purchase a diesel passenger vehicle at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Cost effective?. Could someone please do the calculation</p>
<p>Additional cost of a diesel engined vehicle + additional cost of diesel fuel versus saving in fuel consumption</p>
<p>Is it still cost effective to purchase a diesel passenger vehicle at all?</p>
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