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		By: IlOvEsA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Misunderstood. Its not so much that South Africa doesn&#039;t support or promote the ideal of non-discrimination based on sexual orientation. Instead, it takes offence at Western (predominantly Caucasian) nations attempting to dilute the very real history and present occurrences of racism in the world. The fight for equality and non-discrimination of LGBT communities is certainly a priority for SA. However, one cannot seriously say (as the Western powers are trying to have us believe) that the suffering of people based on their sexual preference is a form of racism. Racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related (key word - RELATED) intolerance have absolutely nothing to do with sexual preference. South Africans should understand this more than most other nations as our LGBT community is as racially diverse as any. While sexual orientation is indeed a ground upon which people are discriminated against, it has nothing to do with fighting the scourge of racism and its new manifestations in terms of discriminating against groups based on their racial, ethnic, and religious identities. Furthermore, in the systems of international law, the notion of sexual orientation has not yet been defined. Thus, to support the idea would be to support the whims of foreign powers that would use such support to promote their own political agendas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Misunderstood. Its not so much that South Africa doesn&#8217;t support or promote the ideal of non-discrimination based on sexual orientation. Instead, it takes offence at Western (predominantly Caucasian) nations attempting to dilute the very real history and present occurrences of racism in the world. The fight for equality and non-discrimination of LGBT communities is certainly a priority for SA. However, one cannot seriously say (as the Western powers are trying to have us believe) that the suffering of people based on their sexual preference is a form of racism. Racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related (key word &#8211; RELATED) intolerance have absolutely nothing to do with sexual preference. South Africans should understand this more than most other nations as our LGBT community is as racially diverse as any. While sexual orientation is indeed a ground upon which people are discriminated against, it has nothing to do with fighting the scourge of racism and its new manifestations in terms of discriminating against groups based on their racial, ethnic, and religious identities. Furthermore, in the systems of international law, the notion of sexual orientation has not yet been defined. Thus, to support the idea would be to support the whims of foreign powers that would use such support to promote their own political agendas.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2010/06/23/south-africa-fails-lgbt-people-at-un/#comment-10108&quot;&gt;IlOvEsA&lt;/a&gt;.

Racism/Sexual orientation discrimination.. What a load of bul%$#t! Most African leaders are clear about their stance on homosexuality. It is unAfrican!!! Besides the fact that this is blatant homophobia; how can it be distanced from racism!!! If anything, it makes sense that SA, given Zuma and Malema&#039;s viewpoints, and others, has adopted this stance i.e. to distance sexual orientation discrimination from racism! This way, they can not be accused of racism for their views.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2010/06/23/south-africa-fails-lgbt-people-at-un/#comment-10108">IlOvEsA</a>.</p>
<p>Racism/Sexual orientation discrimination.. What a load of bul%$#t! Most African leaders are clear about their stance on homosexuality. It is unAfrican!!! Besides the fact that this is blatant homophobia; how can it be distanced from racism!!! If anything, it makes sense that SA, given Zuma and Malema&#8217;s viewpoints, and others, has adopted this stance i.e. to distance sexual orientation discrimination from racism! This way, they can not be accused of racism for their views.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[to: ILOveSA. I honestly don&#039;t see the difference between racism and homophobio. Both are born out of an inherent belief that someone else is inferior to you because of what they are, and acting on this belief. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason for trying to include gay rights as basic human rights is to stop this discrimination. And by this I don&#039;t mean extending marriage right, but just very basic shit like not killing someone because they are gay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is ridiculous, I am losing my cool more and more as I write this. Think a little.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>to: ILOveSA. I honestly don&#8217;t see the difference between racism and homophobio. Both are born out of an inherent belief that someone else is inferior to you because of what they are, and acting on this belief. </p>
<p>The reason for trying to include gay rights as basic human rights is to stop this discrimination. And by this I don&#8217;t mean extending marriage right, but just very basic shit like not killing someone because they are gay.</p>
<p>This is ridiculous, I am losing my cool more and more as I write this. Think a little.</p>
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		By: sexyhot		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2010/06/23/south-africa-fails-lgbt-people-at-un/#comment-10109&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

hey mark. hey mark well ok i have news to really tell you ok look we as gay and lesbians need to surpport anbd fight for the lgbt black gays and lesbians coz theyt are having a tough time in the township being gay in the town ship is not easy .&lt;br&gt;i met a few lesbaians and gays from town ships they say its really tough being gay there coz they say the African people say its unAfrican to be gay which i dont agree .&lt;br&gt;i mean why cant people just lieve the black gays and lesbians and us gay and lesbians alone so the striaght people must just stick they dam noses some where else where it belongs.&lt;br&gt;it just shows you there is still hertersexuals who hate us gays and discriment againist us and kill us now days.&lt;br&gt;we need to do some thing about it now before it gets to late.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2010/06/23/south-africa-fails-lgbt-people-at-un/#comment-10109">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>hey mark. hey mark well ok i have news to really tell you ok look we as gay and lesbians need to surpport anbd fight for the lgbt black gays and lesbians coz theyt are having a tough time in the township being gay in the town ship is not easy .<br />i met a few lesbaians and gays from town ships they say its really tough being gay there coz they say the African people say its unAfrican to be gay which i dont agree .<br />i mean why cant people just lieve the black gays and lesbians and us gay and lesbians alone so the striaght people must just stick they dam noses some where else where it belongs.<br />it just shows you there is still hertersexuals who hate us gays and discriment againist us and kill us now days.<br />we need to do some thing about it now before it gets to late.</p>
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