For South Africa, it is also strange that a Black person has never really won the competition – one would swear only whites are gay.

Im sorry, but next time showcase the real South Africa, and dont use us when its is convenient to do so!

Connie you are pathetic! I would suggest you bunch first become more inclusive, speak out against the corrective rape and bridge the racial divide and get more black executives onto the committee, both in pride and the pageant!

You all make me wanna go straight!

true. i couldnt agree more with you my friend!
and then the africans sing as background music as if they will give a black brotha a chance?

we must rise to white gays! THIS SHIT MUST END!

why. I am so tired of it always becoming a race fight.

Yes, you are right, to some degree.

But is it necessary to offend other people.
This Black vs White fight will go on as long as both sides attack the other.

You say “include”, do you think it’s possible if we keep bickering like this?

Why can’t you just congratulate Francois os his achievement, and move on?

change. ok, congrats…

but please bear in mind, tired, we are not fighting neither are we bickering – its simply stating facts.

It is unfortunate that white gay people (and i am white) do things so subtle that when black persons try to intervene , it is seen as obscene, common and racist.

For years, these people have been playing these games in society, and the way we see black people and gay at that, is even worse.

Im sure you know this all too well that within your own circles how we degrade black gays. I try and make the change, but we need more people to stand united to fight this divide within our own gay community.

I had a look at Cape Town Pride, from where i sit, and it was said that it moved out of the city into sea point, areas where white gays live – then there are the issue that events were pricey to attend, it wasnt inclusive, and then the festival director talk about making it more upscale? WTF? Then a quick glance on the committee reveals its mostly whites> so no regard for the less fortunate gays whom are also proud.

The whole pride event is to show closetted gay men that thye can be proud of who they are, and that there are thousands like them and proud top be that way – giving hope to the hopeless. how can we do that, when we insist in keeping it in areas not accessible by everyone?

The same can be said about Joburg pride, the same about MRGSA? who does these things target? who is really included in its plans? do we think about our own communities or is it just a PR stunt to show the world, hey we gay too? This needs to be localised more, we need to help and assist our own people, black, white, indian, coloured etc. they have more need of our support and loyalty and we need to include them in our programmes and go out and make that change!

I was there …. What can they do when so few blacks enter? I was a contestant at the northr egional in pta and although there were only 7 black or coloured guys out of the 20 who participated, a black guy came first and a coloured guy came second – so you are just wrong. They were not good enough in the final to win – and that is the bottom line. Winning mr Gay world TWICE vindicates all what they have said and negates your argument completely.

See my answer above. Hmmm you blacks did not enter – so how could you win> Tjis competition is based on MERIT and not Affirmative Action where you get everything handed on a plate. Again, to hav won Mr Gay world tow times in a row negates your whole argument.

Exactly. Exactly – and – why don;’t they just enter> They don;’t so thats why basically