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		By: Really		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is not irony that is the reality of township life, it is still dangerous to march in Soweto which is why the whites don&#039;t come, there is no beer for sale, no giant piss up afterwards. The irony is that people who claim to care about the slaughter of black lesbian women will turn up to the giant party in Rosebank but wont show a face at the political rally in Soweto. Which do you think is closer to the vision of the pioneers of our struggle that Joburg Pride are so quick to quote when it suits them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>That is not irony that is the reality of township life, it is still dangerous to march in Soweto which is why the whites don&#8217;t come, there is no beer for sale, no giant piss up afterwards. The irony is that people who claim to care about the slaughter of black lesbian women will turn up to the giant party in Rosebank but wont show a face at the political rally in Soweto. Which do you think is closer to the vision of the pioneers of our struggle that Joburg Pride are so quick to quote when it suits them?</p>
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		By: JustMe		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done to 1 in 9 for making a statement clearly Pride Committee failed dismally at doing. And well done for doing it &quot;illegally&quot;. If you (1 in 9) and gone by Pride&#039;s book, Pride committee would have watered it down so drastically (as they have Pride in general) that you would have wasted your time and your message would have gone unnoticed. I&#039;m PROUD 1 in 9 stood up for those who&#039;s voices have been lost to the darkness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Well done to 1 in 9 for making a statement clearly Pride Committee failed dismally at doing. And well done for doing it &#8220;illegally&#8221;. If you (1 in 9) and gone by Pride&#8217;s book, Pride committee would have watered it down so drastically (as they have Pride in general) that you would have wasted your time and your message would have gone unnoticed. I&#8217;m PROUD 1 in 9 stood up for those who&#8217;s voices have been lost to the darkness.</p>
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		By: JustMe		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16701&quot;&gt;Really&lt;/a&gt;.

I just watched video footage on YouTube about the incident. I am disgusted by Tanya Harford and Jenni Green&#039;s behavior - and the call to have people drive over the 1 in 9 participants - for raining on their parade. But what really was an eye opener, ironically, was seeing marchers stepping through what were depicted as dead bodies - the victims of hate crimes. You can see a clear &quot;what to do?&quot; question and a &quot;carry on walking&quot; response. Ironic. But when a group (1 in 9) try and step in and seek to change that - or at least highlight the need for justice - they are met by violent confrontation. It&#039;s not ironic, it&#039;s disgusting the way they were confronted. And just read on twitter: One of Pride&#039;s suppliers and friends was brutally murdered last night. Ironic? Who shot whom in the foot now not wanting to embrace a call for justice but rather party, party, party?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16701">Really</a>.</p>
<p>I just watched video footage on YouTube about the incident. I am disgusted by Tanya Harford and Jenni Green&#8217;s behavior &#8211; and the call to have people drive over the 1 in 9 participants &#8211; for raining on their parade. But what really was an eye opener, ironically, was seeing marchers stepping through what were depicted as dead bodies &#8211; the victims of hate crimes. You can see a clear &#8220;what to do?&#8221; question and a &#8220;carry on walking&#8221; response. Ironic. But when a group (1 in 9) try and step in and seek to change that &#8211; or at least highlight the need for justice &#8211; they are met by violent confrontation. It&#8217;s not ironic, it&#8217;s disgusting the way they were confronted. And just read on twitter: One of Pride&#8217;s suppliers and friends was brutally murdered last night. Ironic? Who shot whom in the foot now not wanting to embrace a call for justice but rather party, party, party?</p>
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		By: Zee		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16702&quot;&gt;JustMe&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes yes yes! Why is pride split between Rosebank and Soweto anyway???? We must hang the organizers out to dry!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16702">JustMe</a>.</p>
<p>Yes yes yes! Why is pride split between Rosebank and Soweto anyway???? We must hang the organizers out to dry!!!</p>
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		By: Stuart		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just so we&#039;re clear, under the Regulation of Gatherings Act of 1993, the 1in9 protest was not illegal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Just so we&#8217;re clear, under the Regulation of Gatherings Act of 1993, the 1in9 protest was not illegal</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[1-9 is wrong]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>1-9 is wrong</p>
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		By: Gilles		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[i also found it weird that there is 2 pride, one in Soweto and one in Zoo lake. what image is the LGBT reflecting to the community. Why they did not do one pride in Soweto???It is so hypocrite and i did not go to any of them.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>i also found it weird that there is 2 pride, one in Soweto and one in Zoo lake. what image is the LGBT reflecting to the community. Why they did not do one pride in Soweto???It is so hypocrite and i did not go to any of them&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Fed up with Carrie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fed up with Carrie]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was simply a publicity stunt. Carrie Shelver has been doing this for years. It&#039;s not about the message, it&#039;s about the amount of publicity she gets by causing trouble. Go home, Carrie, and let 1 in 9 make proper arrangements next time and deliver a decent, powerful message about those we have lost - without all your drama spoiling it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>This was simply a publicity stunt. Carrie Shelver has been doing this for years. It&#8217;s not about the message, it&#8217;s about the amount of publicity she gets by causing trouble. Go home, Carrie, and let 1 in 9 make proper arrangements next time and deliver a decent, powerful message about those we have lost &#8211; without all your drama spoiling it.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16714&quot;&gt;Fed up with Carrie&lt;/a&gt;.

After watching the YouTube clip/press release 1in9 put together, I would agree with you. Had they gone to Pride and arranged like all of the other organisations and sponsors did, there would not have been all this hype....watching the YouTube clip actually made me sick and ashamed to be a gay man in South Africa....I applaud the idea behind 1in9, but definitely not the delivery! Shame on you!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/10/07/joburg-pride-marred-by-scuffles/#comment-16714">Fed up with Carrie</a>.</p>
<p>After watching the YouTube clip/press release 1in9 put together, I would agree with you. Had they gone to Pride and arranged like all of the other organisations and sponsors did, there would not have been all this hype&#8230;.watching the YouTube clip actually made me sick and ashamed to be a gay man in South Africa&#8230;.I applaud the idea behind 1in9, but definitely not the delivery! Shame on you!!!</p>
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		By: Seb		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps they did not follow the proper steps - but goodness - it says a lot of the white people who acted with disgust and racism towards them. I really cannot excuse such behavior. It says a lot of the committee, the participants and how it is organised. It does seem to be all a party and no advocacy.. similar to how Cape Town Pride is run. A clever planned elitist event where black people are only used to be infront of the camera&#039;s and when the pride march is over, they are bussed back to the locations. A sad state of affairs.. racism is rife in the gay/queer community and we need to address this head on! Mr GAY SA you too need to watch it with your elitist pageant.. be more inclusive!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Perhaps they did not follow the proper steps &#8211; but goodness &#8211; it says a lot of the white people who acted with disgust and racism towards them. I really cannot excuse such behavior. It says a lot of the committee, the participants and how it is organised. It does seem to be all a party and no advocacy.. similar to how Cape Town Pride is run. A clever planned elitist event where black people are only used to be infront of the camera&#8217;s and when the pride march is over, they are bussed back to the locations. A sad state of affairs.. racism is rife in the gay/queer community and we need to address this head on! Mr GAY SA you too need to watch it with your elitist pageant.. be more inclusive!</p>
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