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		By: Naas Coetzee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naas Coetzee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the end of the day,marriage is a celebration of two people in love.  For a beautiful venue that does not discriminate , you should have a look at Blue Horizon Estate. www.bluehorizonestate.co.za]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>At the end of the day,marriage is a celebration of two people in love.  For a beautiful venue that does not discriminate , you should have a look at Blue Horizon Estate. <a href="http://www.bluehorizonestate.co.za" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bluehorizonestate.co.za</a></p>
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		By: Grant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband and I had the same discrimination by a place in midrand. We then went on to have our wedding at Moon &#038; Sixpence and they were superb, accommodating us like every other couple that gets married there.  Thanks again MS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>My husband and I had the same discrimination by a place in midrand. We then went on to have our wedding at Moon &amp; Sixpence and they were superb, accommodating us like every other couple that gets married there.  Thanks again MS.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 18:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41663&quot;&gt;Logical thinker&lt;/a&gt;.

this is such a simple response its a shame you actually put thought into this. so what your saying is that if you start a busienss you don jnot have to consider the law and act within it. strange how they are not upfront with their prejudices, clearly that would be bad. Never try strike it on your own, your clrearly not built for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41663">Logical thinker</a>.</p>
<p>this is such a simple response its a shame you actually put thought into this. so what your saying is that if you start a busienss you don jnot have to consider the law and act within it. strange how they are not upfront with their prejudices, clearly that would be bad. Never try strike it on your own, your clrearly not built for it.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI- I have been looking at JHB wedding venues- I have the contract for Oakfields in front of me, that reads &#039;With respect to our affiliation with CESA and the religious beliefs thereof, same sex marriages may not be conducted at Oakfield Farm. If for any reason such a wedding is booked without prior knowledge the date will be released and the deposit credited with immediate effect.&quot;

Second hand information- we have been told other venues that do not allow same sex marriages- Avianto, Morrels, Toadbury Hall, Waterfall Cove.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>FYI- I have been looking at JHB wedding venues- I have the contract for Oakfields in front of me, that reads &#8216;With respect to our affiliation with CESA and the religious beliefs thereof, same sex marriages may not be conducted at Oakfield Farm. If for any reason such a wedding is booked without prior knowledge the date will be released and the deposit credited with immediate effect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second hand information- we have been told other venues that do not allow same sex marriages- Avianto, Morrels, Toadbury Hall, Waterfall Cove.</p>
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		By: Dawie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just find it abhorrent that parts of the gay community are so vindictive towards people with a different belief. Why are your rights more equal than mine? My beliefs are that you are incorrect in what you do, but at the same time I have to treat you with the same respect I expect to be treated with. If we can all act in that manner and allow others their beliefs, maybe this country can be better for all. Please remember that for me to practice my Christian beliefs, I have to live according to the Bible. I do expect others to allow me the opportunity to practice my beliefs WITHOUT discriminating against me. That can only happen when we treat each other with the necessary respect and dignity. So take the emotion out of it and stick to the facts. Read again what Leanne from the article had to say and then judge whether you are objective regarding this issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I just find it abhorrent that parts of the gay community are so vindictive towards people with a different belief. Why are your rights more equal than mine? My beliefs are that you are incorrect in what you do, but at the same time I have to treat you with the same respect I expect to be treated with. If we can all act in that manner and allow others their beliefs, maybe this country can be better for all. Please remember that for me to practice my Christian beliefs, I have to live according to the Bible. I do expect others to allow me the opportunity to practice my beliefs WITHOUT discriminating against me. That can only happen when we treat each other with the necessary respect and dignity. So take the emotion out of it and stick to the facts. Read again what Leanne from the article had to say and then judge whether you are objective regarding this issue.</p>
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		By: Annonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to work for a wedding venue mentioned above which did not allow Gay weddings. It is one of the hardest things to do - to turn away a delightful couple, simply because of their sexuality. I have no problem with Gay people or gay marraige, but I was not allow to sell weddings to gay people. It is very difficult to choose your beliefs over your job when you have a family to feed. Don not judge the messenger, we&#039;re only doing the best we can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I used to work for a wedding venue mentioned above which did not allow Gay weddings. It is one of the hardest things to do &#8211; to turn away a delightful couple, simply because of their sexuality. I have no problem with Gay people or gay marraige, but I was not allow to sell weddings to gay people. It is very difficult to choose your beliefs over your job when you have a family to feed. Don not judge the messenger, we&#8217;re only doing the best we can.</p>
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		By: Niki		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41657&quot;&gt;Dean&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...and yes, we have turned away business where we found it distasteful, and found that in doing this, the business has actually increased.&quot; I&#039;m on nobody&#039;s side here, but this sounds like something the owner of Kilcairn could have said to justify his actions as well?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41657">Dean</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and yes, we have turned away business where we found it distasteful, and found that in doing this, the business has actually increased.&#8221; I&#8217;m on nobody&#8217;s side here, but this sounds like something the owner of Kilcairn could have said to justify his actions as well?</p>
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		By: Caroline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41474&quot;&gt;Ballard&lt;/a&gt;.

Thing is Ballard, Uncle Jay is not suggesting we force gay people to live in Homelands, just that for certain specific people, they disagree with the notion of same-sex marriage for whatever reason, and so on their property, they have chosen not to host same-sex weddings. The thing with tolerance is that it isn&#039;t only for things we ourselves agree with or believe in, it&#039;s also allowing others to have their own views... and tolerating them as we would wish to be tolerated. 

I have noticed it before, that many who themselves wish to be tolerated, not suffer prejudice and so on, are themselves incredibly intolerant of views that differ from their own. If what these particular people are doing is illegal, then the couple in question have a right to pursue that, should they wish to. If not, well, it&#039;s a personal choice. It&#039;s unprofessional, obviously, and financially silly, turning away paying customers, but there it is. Free will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41474">Ballard</a>.</p>
<p>Thing is Ballard, Uncle Jay is not suggesting we force gay people to live in Homelands, just that for certain specific people, they disagree with the notion of same-sex marriage for whatever reason, and so on their property, they have chosen not to host same-sex weddings. The thing with tolerance is that it isn&#8217;t only for things we ourselves agree with or believe in, it&#8217;s also allowing others to have their own views&#8230; and tolerating them as we would wish to be tolerated. </p>
<p>I have noticed it before, that many who themselves wish to be tolerated, not suffer prejudice and so on, are themselves incredibly intolerant of views that differ from their own. If what these particular people are doing is illegal, then the couple in question have a right to pursue that, should they wish to. If not, well, it&#8217;s a personal choice. It&#8217;s unprofessional, obviously, and financially silly, turning away paying customers, but there it is. Free will.</p>
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		By: Gwen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 05:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41663&quot;&gt;Logical thinker&lt;/a&gt;.

If you read the entire article you would have read that they did find a new venue which they love and that they have moved on and don&#039;t want this experience to mire their wedding.
All t hey have done is voice their experience....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2014/03/26/cape-wedding-venue-dumps-lesbian-couple/#comment-41663">Logical thinker</a>.</p>
<p>If you read the entire article you would have read that they did find a new venue which they love and that they have moved on and don&#8217;t want this experience to mire their wedding.<br />
All t hey have done is voice their experience&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Anel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly Richard...But and this is the NB one....If you feel you have a valid case, according to our constitution, seek legal advice and sue! Do not start slanderous campaigns on public media platforms.
This is what I have against this whole sordid situation.
Imagine every person that disagrees with you in your capacity as a business owner, does this to you? Where would you be? And how would the world look like?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Exactly Richard&#8230;But and this is the NB one&#8230;.If you feel you have a valid case, according to our constitution, seek legal advice and sue! Do not start slanderous campaigns on public media platforms.<br />
This is what I have against this whole sordid situation.<br />
Imagine every person that disagrees with you in your capacity as a business owner, does this to you? Where would you be? And how would the world look like?</p>
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