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		By: FFbushpig		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-16036</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmnnn.... Note taken,but must I now change my lifelong attraction to (Butch) inshape men with beards? Guys who can and want to join me on long motorbike rides,who want to go fishing on weekends? It&#039;s one thing to be PC...but to demand that I now like you,view you as a sexual partner and to fall hopelessly in love with you? Aikhona......rather label me as a throwback then.... A person CANNOT change what he finds attractive... If we could,then we&#039;d all be straight - cos face it,being gay aint allways moonshine and roses...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Hmmnnn&#8230;. Note taken,but must I now change my lifelong attraction to (Butch) inshape men with beards? Guys who can and want to join me on long motorbike rides,who want to go fishing on weekends? It&#8217;s one thing to be PC&#8230;but to demand that I now like you,view you as a sexual partner and to fall hopelessly in love with you? Aikhona&#8230;&#8230;rather label me as a throwback then&#8230;. A person CANNOT change what he finds attractive&#8230; If we could,then we&#8217;d all be straight &#8211; cos face it,being gay aint allways moonshine and roses&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rambler		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15580</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An insightful piece of writing that I think we can learn from as a community. After years of rejection  (internal and external), we do come out  wanting affirmation. And perhaps the shallow looking for a straight-acting guy to love us (or at least sleep with us) affirms that deep desire to be accepted by a straight-dominated world - we are acceptable by default, or so we hope. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>An insightful piece of writing that I think we can learn from as a community. After years of rejection  (internal and external), we do come out  wanting affirmation. And perhaps the shallow looking for a straight-acting guy to love us (or at least sleep with us) affirms that deep desire to be accepted by a straight-dominated world &#8211; we are acceptable by default, or so we hope. </p>
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		By: LD		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[well well,..Mr Derek,..thanks so much for keeping the perception of all buff men on the median that we are all the same ilk! lol what grabage!,..but then again i am not shocked,.. yur need tobe validated by society,your narcisisim ,..i hope makes you happy! &lt;br&gt;i have some freinds like you and atimes i cringe at what they say,but realy scrape through it all and atimes its that kid at 5-10 with the &quot;ugly duckling syndrome&quot;  and now he is all tonned and built the rest of the world has to acknowledge it. shame we do not!&lt;br&gt;and before you start hitting on me for hating on you,..i am lucky i have liberated my self from that parade and narcisism many gym bunnys have and i hav learnt to live. the six pack still intact,still bigger than many roid boys and a lot happier. &lt;br&gt;And by the way this is form a guy that was skinny ,then over weight and now 87 kgs of muscle. and what i have learnt is people spoke to me then or rather acknowledge me then ,than they do now,.....or i just grew out of the silly pick line &quot;you must gym 6 days a week&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>well well,..Mr Derek,..thanks so much for keeping the perception of all buff men on the median that we are all the same ilk! lol what grabage!,..but then again i am not shocked,.. yur need tobe validated by society,your narcisisim ,..i hope makes you happy! <br />i have some freinds like you and atimes i cringe at what they say,but realy scrape through it all and atimes its that kid at 5-10 with the &#8220;ugly duckling syndrome&#8221;  and now he is all tonned and built the rest of the world has to acknowledge it. shame we do not!<br />and before you start hitting on me for hating on you,..i am lucky i have liberated my self from that parade and narcisism many gym bunnys have and i hav learnt to live. the six pack still intact,still bigger than many roid boys and a lot happier. <br />And by the way this is form a guy that was skinny ,then over weight and now 87 kgs of muscle. and what i have learnt is people spoke to me then or rather acknowledge me then ,than they do now,&#8230;..or i just grew out of the silly pick line &#8220;you must gym 6 days a week&#8221;!</p>
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		By: Seth		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15578</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with this article. When I came out I thought that I would find a safe and welcoming place within the gay community. Instead I found the most shallow and judgemental people I have ever met.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can we expect straight people across the globe to accept gay people when we as a gay community can&#039;t even accept the differences within each other? &lt;br&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I totally agree with this article. When I came out I thought that I would find a safe and welcoming place within the gay community. Instead I found the most shallow and judgemental people I have ever met.</p>
<p>How can we expect straight people across the globe to accept gay people when we as a gay community can&#8217;t even accept the differences within each other? </p>
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		By: Derek Hougaardt		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Hougaardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15575&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

O, and there is another spelling mistake Pierre before you try and point it out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15575">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>O, and there is another spelling mistake Pierre before you try and point it out.</p>
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		By: Derek Hougaardt		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15574&quot;&gt;Gaby&lt;/a&gt;.

Gaby, I did miss the point. You are right after reading the article again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15574">Gaby</a>.</p>
<p>Gaby, I did miss the point. You are right after reading the article again.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15573&quot;&gt;Pierre V&lt;/a&gt;.

Miskien moet jy my `n les in spelling en &quot;grammer&quot; leer... O nee wag, ek kan nie. Gym sessie vanaand. Jammer! Sien jy het darem verstaan wat ek ges het. Neem aan jy is `n onderwyser wat mense spel foute uitwys. WORLD PEACE! &quot;wink&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15573">Pierre V</a>.</p>
<p>Miskien moet jy my `n les in spelling en &#8220;grammer&#8221; leer&#8230; O nee wag, ek kan nie. Gym sessie vanaand. Jammer! Sien jy het darem verstaan wat ek ges het. Neem aan jy is `n onderwyser wat mense spel foute uitwys. WORLD PEACE! &#8220;wink&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gaby		</title>
		<link>https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15574</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15570&quot;&gt;Derek Hougaardt&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek, at no point in this article is Dylan telling you to &quot;start liking fat men&quot; as you put it. You seem personally offended that he exposes one of the core prejudices present in the gay community. Instead of defensively justifying a superficial standpoint as a mere matter of &quot;taste&quot; - as many homo/hetero people justify their racism when asked why they don&#039;t date outside their race - perhaps take the article for its purpose: to get folks to reflect on themselves and how they treat others. In the LGBTI community we&#039;re all about labels - fem, butch, top, bottom, boi, twink etc - we often are so fixated on these that we forget to treat each other as human beings. Dylan is no way saying you (or any other person) do not deserve &quot;a healthy attractive man&quot;, but he is pointing out that gays of all shapes and sizes don&#039;t deserve to be shunned or ostracised because they don&#039;t &quot;make the grade&quot; We all get wrinkled and shrivel to dirt in the end. We do ourselves an injustice by excluding people from our life based purely on superficial assumptions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15570">Derek Hougaardt</a>.</p>
<p>Derek, at no point in this article is Dylan telling you to &#8220;start liking fat men&#8221; as you put it. You seem personally offended that he exposes one of the core prejudices present in the gay community. Instead of defensively justifying a superficial standpoint as a mere matter of &#8220;taste&#8221; &#8211; as many homo/hetero people justify their racism when asked why they don&#8217;t date outside their race &#8211; perhaps take the article for its purpose: to get folks to reflect on themselves and how they treat others. In the LGBTI community we&#8217;re all about labels &#8211; fem, butch, top, bottom, boi, twink etc &#8211; we often are so fixated on these that we forget to treat each other as human beings. Dylan is no way saying you (or any other person) do not deserve &#8220;a healthy attractive man&#8221;, but he is pointing out that gays of all shapes and sizes don&#8217;t deserve to be shunned or ostracised because they don&#8217;t &#8220;make the grade&#8221; We all get wrinkled and shrivel to dirt in the end. We do ourselves an injustice by excluding people from our life based purely on superficial assumptions.</p>
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		By: Pierre V		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15570&quot;&gt;Derek Hougaardt&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol, given that you can barely spell and string together sentences I seriously doubt you&#039;ll be first in line for that job - no matter how attractive you think you are. Also, you completely missed the point of the article, but then again it&#039;s not clear if you&#039;re able to read. Maybe a little less time in the gym and a little more with the books. WORLD PEACE! *wink*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mambaonline.com/2012/05/03/no-fats-no-fems/#comment-15570">Derek Hougaardt</a>.</p>
<p>Lol, given that you can barely spell and string together sentences I seriously doubt you&#8217;ll be first in line for that job &#8211; no matter how attractive you think you are. Also, you completely missed the point of the article, but then again it&#8217;s not clear if you&#8217;re able to read. Maybe a little less time in the gym and a little more with the books. WORLD PEACE! *wink*</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wanted to make a negative comment about this opinion piece, but after reading &quot;Derek Hougaardt&quot; &#039;s response below I&#039;ve decided against it. &quot;Derek&quot;, did you read a different version than me? Dylan did not say &quot;straight acting&quot; fags must find fem fat guys attractive, merely that they must be more tolerent and less discrimatory. You are a prime example of the kind of mentality talked about in the piece]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I wanted to make a negative comment about this opinion piece, but after reading &#8220;Derek Hougaardt&#8221; &#8216;s response below I&#8217;ve decided against it. &#8220;Derek&#8221;, did you read a different version than me? Dylan did not say &#8220;straight acting&#8221; fags must find fem fat guys attractive, merely that they must be more tolerent and less discrimatory. You are a prime example of the kind of mentality talked about in the piece</p>
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