Comments on: ALARM OVER ‘GAY CURE’ PRETORIA SEMINAR

By: berta

berta — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

these seminars are actually a way to find sexual partners. these people get off on the guilt.

By: M

Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This so-called cure may minimise same-sex attraction for bisexuals who are predominantly attracted to women, but I don’t think you could call it a “cure” for guys who are predominantly gay.

By: D

Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Of course he will damage some innocent fellow struggling with life. The only seminar of any worth is one to embrace those who need help and actually help them out the closet. We ARE born this way…stop trying to fuck with nature…for goodness sake!!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Berta, have you been to one of these seminars? Jock, why do you lash out at someone for making is or her own desicions? All I read here are people lashing out a someone for making a choice. Have you ever sat down and tried to see the person going for councelings point of view? Let each person decide if they want to change or not. There are thousands of people who changed because they wanted to, nothing you can say or do will ever change that. and believe it or not, thay are happy with the decision they made. My point, let each one decide what THEY want to do with HIS/HER own life. Read up on it and see what it’s about, don’t judge others bacause they no longer feel or do not want to feel what you do. We ALL have tio do what we see fit for our own lives. Love each other, don’t judge others by your standards. You have no idea what journey they are on. Hoping for the best for all of you!!!!

By: Phelim

Phelim — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to D.

D – Have you heard of the Human Genome Project? They have mapped the human genome and guess what – they say there is no gay gene. Why, because there is no evidence for it. As for the gay brain, no one (even the original researcher) have repeated the experiment to find a gay part of the brain. If homosexuality was biological then we would see identical twins where one is gay the other being gay in around 80% not the 12% shown in research. How can homosexuality be natural if only 12 in 100 pairs of identical twins are both twins gay. The reality is that people who were gay are now not and nothing people like you can say can change that truth.

By: Phelim

Phelim — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to M.

M – how about a guy who was an actor who stared in gay porn movies, was a gay prostitute in California and never had a sexual feeling for women who now has no homosexual feelings and is now married? Or a gay rights protester who stormed a conference offering healing and is now married with no homosexual feelings where before he was in a gay relationship with no interest in women? Or a guy who was in a gay relationship and represented his country in the Gay Games and is now married, with children and little or no homosexual feelings? Or a man who was a youth worker who worked with gay/lesbian/bisexual children, was in a long term relationship with a guy who now has not had any homosexual feelings and is now dating a female? All of these went through some type of therapy for unwanted same sex attractions and are now straight. How do I know – I am one of them. You can deny that we exist but you can not change the facts. I WAS gay NOW I am straight.

By: Phelim

Phelim — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

So Xander Flemming is worried that the type of therapy Bekker offers could lead to suicide. Does he have similar concerns about therapy for anorexia, drug addiction, depression and other issues – all of which can and have led to those who undertake them to attempt suicide? How about the people who have been through the type of therapy that D says should be given (to help people come out) which has no backing in research to support it as either safe or effective, unlike Bekker’s therapy which has backing to show that it is both as safe and effective as other psychological interventions. If Flemming is not willing to condemn other therapies for carrying the same level of danger as those for unwanted same sex attractions and is willing to promote an unsupported therapy to help people come out not only is he a hypocrite – he, unlike Bekker, is dangerous.

By: H

Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Phelim. Well said, thank you very much.

By: Somerset

Somerset — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I attended the seminar. Everyone was free to go whenever he or she wished to. Those who attended did so out of their own free will. Andre Bekker is not a demagogue – he is balanced and loving. His words “We believe that it is good for us to be available for those people who have a desire to deal with their sexuality” are core value..

By: Marius

Marius — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Maybe the gay community should do some reading of their own. I attended this seminar and it was all factual, based on documented studies worldwide with the focus on giving people the change to know more. Its so easy to judge and condemn people for their choices. Isnt that what the LGBT community prides itself for? Acceptance and healing. So if I can accept your choices to live a gay lifestyle and go through life on your own terms why cant you accept my choice of feeling that I dont want and feel to be gay and want psyhological help in this regard and see what my options are? That sounds a bit like a double standards in my regard. Do yourself a favour and go read up a bit on the facts. http://www.learntolove.co.za. You might not want to change your lifestyle based on that but at least you will be informed of scientific proofs and transcripts about the facts.

And if Mr Flemming can make the statement that people that go through therapy could lead to suicide then why doesnt he also point out the statistics that the life expectancy of a gay lifestyle is round about 50 because of 1) HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases, 2) suicides in the gay community because of depression regarding their sexuality.

See its easy to comment and judge. Maybe before one comments we should go look at scientific proven facts. And If I can let you be, then let me be?!