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		By: Proceed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Proceed]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just ignore the feminist communists and go on and arrange a commercial Pride as always. Samantha is already doing it ... so meet until you are blue - bye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Just ignore the feminist communists and go on and arrange a commercial Pride as always. Samantha is already doing it &#8230; so meet until you are blue &#8211; bye.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of this debate is unnecessarily divisive. While I agree that there needs to be substantially more political motivation behind Pride - there needs to be a balancing of the party/social aspect too. The &quot;radical&quot; feminist side needs to be incorporated - but not at the expense of corporate funding opportunities. On the topic of crowd funding - the model will NEVER work. Out In Africa (which is in my opinion a truly worthy cause) hasn&#039;t been able to make it work - and they have been trying to be self-sustaining for years. Let&#039;s not be naive and self-serving with this, at the end of the day it is meant to be a celebration of our collective identity as an LGBTI community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>All of this debate is unnecessarily divisive. While I agree that there needs to be substantially more political motivation behind Pride &#8211; there needs to be a balancing of the party/social aspect too. The &#8220;radical&#8221; feminist side needs to be incorporated &#8211; but not at the expense of corporate funding opportunities. On the topic of crowd funding &#8211; the model will NEVER work. Out In Africa (which is in my opinion a truly worthy cause) hasn&#8217;t been able to make it work &#8211; and they have been trying to be self-sustaining for years. Let&#8217;s not be naive and self-serving with this, at the end of the day it is meant to be a celebration of our collective identity as an LGBTI community.</p>
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		By: nania		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[If there would be 2 prides a year in both areas then later in the years they get fused togther there really wouldn&#039;t be a problem,wat is importnt is d success of th event. Do not force people to change so radicaly especialy if there are more chnces of losing than winning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>If there would be 2 prides a year in both areas then later in the years they get fused togther there really wouldn&#8217;t be a problem,wat is importnt is d success of th event. Do not force people to change so radicaly especialy if there are more chnces of losing than winning.</p>
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		By: Jan De Plessis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan De Plessis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I dont see anything about racism here...The pride has been always in Zoo Lake why not change and have it in Soweto just like the World Cup in the Soccer City Stadium. We are so hypocrite to talk about &#039;racism&#039; but what about something different???At least these people are thinking of something different, you bunch of &#039;moffies&#039; who just like to get drunk in Zoo Lake every year. What change are you bringing to the pride? Get drunk and get fuck????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I dont see anything about racism here&#8230;The pride has been always in Zoo Lake why not change and have it in Soweto just like the World Cup in the Soccer City Stadium. We are so hypocrite to talk about &#8216;racism&#8217; but what about something different???At least these people are thinking of something different, you bunch of &#8216;moffies&#8217; who just like to get drunk in Zoo Lake every year. What change are you bringing to the pride? Get drunk and get fuck????</p>
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		By: Zuma		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zuma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i DONT SEE THE BIG FUSS ABOUT THIS. WE MUST JUST SUPPORT THEM TO BRING SOMETHING NEW INSTEAD OF BEEN SARCASTIC...FOR GOD SAKE JUST GROW UP PLEASE!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>i DONT SEE THE BIG FUSS ABOUT THIS. WE MUST JUST SUPPORT THEM TO BRING SOMETHING NEW INSTEAD OF BEEN SARCASTIC&#8230;FOR GOD SAKE JUST GROW UP PLEASE!!!</p>
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		By: AntiLGBTI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AntiLGBTI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Watch as it implodes. Popcorn anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Watch as it implodes. Popcorn anyone?</p>
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		By: angelOFlight		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[angelOFlight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If this was playing out in Cape Town I&#039;d suspect the sinister twisted sister Van Ludgwig, self-proclaimed feminist extraordinaire but darker than purple velvet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>If this was playing out in Cape Town I&#8217;d suspect the sinister twisted sister Van Ludgwig, self-proclaimed feminist extraordinaire but darker than purple velvet.</p>
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		By: Thandi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thandi]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excuse me while I vomit.... since when and where exactly has a group of hard-core feminist lesbian comrades ever been able to do anything except cause chaos? OK maybe they score one miserable point for their affinity for feminist poetry but then - damn - they also lose three points for their Tracy Chapman CD collections and their love for Black Label. 1 in 9 and FEW give ordinary lesbians a bad name! And yes bitches grow up - NOT everything must be political - what&#039;s political about teaspoons, Cream Soda and chutney? These sad creatures, who like to call themselves &quot;damaged&quot; or &quot;wounded&quot; or &quot;survivors&quot; but also demand superior rights, are often retired self-mutilators who grow tied of cutting and now just try vent their rage at everyone else. a lesbian doesn&#039;t support them she also becomes the &quot;other&quot;. I DEMAND to be part of your &quot;other&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Excuse me while I vomit&#8230;. since when and where exactly has a group of hard-core feminist lesbian comrades ever been able to do anything except cause chaos? OK maybe they score one miserable point for their affinity for feminist poetry but then &#8211; damn &#8211; they also lose three points for their Tracy Chapman CD collections and their love for Black Label. 1 in 9 and FEW give ordinary lesbians a bad name! And yes bitches grow up &#8211; NOT everything must be political &#8211; what&#8217;s political about teaspoons, Cream Soda and chutney? These sad creatures, who like to call themselves &#8220;damaged&#8221; or &#8220;wounded&#8221; or &#8220;survivors&#8221; but also demand superior rights, are often retired self-mutilators who grow tied of cutting and now just try vent their rage at everyone else. a lesbian doesn&#8217;t support them she also becomes the &#8220;other&#8221;. I DEMAND to be part of your &#8220;other&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Carla De Bouchet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carla De Bouchet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is very divisive to accuse the so called &quot;Feminists&quot; that they want to hi-jack pride. Is corporate sponsorship (that almost always demands something in return for their money) the only option? What about Social investment by companies and Crowd Funding. Long overdue issues have to be resolved. Yes there has been Racism and Classism at Pride. Many people are oblivious to the fact that we apparently have our rights and just need to celebrate. Wrong. Many people out there, Black Lesbians, Transgender and Gays are facing a constant struggle in not just the townships. Their rights are not recognised. We are far from a Free country when it comes to LGBTI rights despite what the media brainwashes us to believe. Pride was originally a Protest March for LGBTI rights with an afterparty but it had become a Drinking Fest slash flea market with not much of a Soul. Those people who have been criticising 1in9 and FEW for their efforts should maybe attend their workshops and meetings to get a better understanding of what they really are about. I did. The first meeting 1in9 and FEW hosted was actually a community Workshop which discussed challenges with Pride and Visions for the Future. Everybody from different backgrounds, Races and orientations were welcome and many people were invited. Groundbreaking work was achieved. So now when people sit and just criticise these activists who are actually actively engaging with other interest groups, my question is: Where have those critics been or are you just gonna rock up at Pride this year and expect something to just happen by itself? That is what has caused the mess Pride is in right now, lack of involvement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>It is very divisive to accuse the so called &#8220;Feminists&#8221; that they want to hi-jack pride. Is corporate sponsorship (that almost always demands something in return for their money) the only option? What about Social investment by companies and Crowd Funding. Long overdue issues have to be resolved. Yes there has been Racism and Classism at Pride. Many people are oblivious to the fact that we apparently have our rights and just need to celebrate. Wrong. Many people out there, Black Lesbians, Transgender and Gays are facing a constant struggle in not just the townships. Their rights are not recognised. We are far from a Free country when it comes to LGBTI rights despite what the media brainwashes us to believe. Pride was originally a Protest March for LGBTI rights with an afterparty but it had become a Drinking Fest slash flea market with not much of a Soul. Those people who have been criticising 1in9 and FEW for their efforts should maybe attend their workshops and meetings to get a better understanding of what they really are about. I did. The first meeting 1in9 and FEW hosted was actually a community Workshop which discussed challenges with Pride and Visions for the Future. Everybody from different backgrounds, Races and orientations were welcome and many people were invited. Groundbreaking work was achieved. So now when people sit and just criticise these activists who are actually actively engaging with other interest groups, my question is: Where have those critics been or are you just gonna rock up at Pride this year and expect something to just happen by itself? That is what has caused the mess Pride is in right now, lack of involvement.</p>
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		By: Huh?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huh?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Firstly - i am gay and really don&#039;t like the word Queer. Secondly - why don&#039;t One in Nine and FEW go and organise a Pride event of their own if they have so many views on it. The 10 people who want something else could make their own committee. Oh wait - they do - it is called Soweto Pride, it has no sponsorship, little support, little marketing, 500 participants...and they actually got funding and logistical advice from Joburg Pride. lmao.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Firstly &#8211; i am gay and really don&#8217;t like the word Queer. Secondly &#8211; why don&#8217;t One in Nine and FEW go and organise a Pride event of their own if they have so many views on it. The 10 people who want something else could make their own committee. Oh wait &#8211; they do &#8211; it is called Soweto Pride, it has no sponsorship, little support, little marketing, 500 participants&#8230;and they actually got funding and logistical advice from Joburg Pride. lmao.</p>
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