JOBURG PRIDE CRISIS: FUTURE STILL UNCERTAIN
Following another public meeting on the weekend that saw continued disagreement on numerous issues, the future of Joburg Pride remains unclear.
Two camps have emerged in the city’s LGBT community on the matter. The first is considering holding pride on more or less a similar basis as previous events; based on an elected volunteer board or committee and using sponsorship to fund a popular mass public event.
The second camp, backed by feminist and socialist-driven group One in Nine and the Forum for the Empowerment of Women (FEW), hopes to re-invent Joburg Pride as a more racially and economically diverse and accessible event that takes place outside of middle-class, traditionally white, areas and focuses on the political challenges facing the LGBT community.
In reaction to the dissolution of the company that organised Joburg Pride for the past seven years, both groups have now had separate public meetings on the future of the event.
While representatives from both camps have attended each other’s meetings and dialogue has taken place between them directly, frustration is growing.
The first group wants to take urgent action to organise a pride event this year. The second group, however, is intent on holding discussions on the ethos and organisational nature of pride and reaching consensus before moving forward, even if this means that there may not be sufficient time to hold Joburg Pride this year.
On Saturday’s public meeting, hosted by the first group, Kaye, one of the individuals who has volunteered to help organise the event, offered the around 50 participants a possible way forward.
She proposed forming an interim working committee to start planning this year’s pride as well as forming a nominating committee that will, in the meantime, address the contentious issues and concerns for 2014 and beyond.
Her presentation led to further debate, with little agreement. Representatives from the second group handed out a document outlining the deliberations of their own previous meeting on 13 April.
According to the document, the group calls for a pride event that is accessible to all people, that is safe, has no fences and that is “collectively owned by us, the people”.
It should include, the group says, “a political march, that has a clear political objective” and is also a “beautiful cultural expression of the various ways in which we are queer”.
The document suggests that the march rotates its location in and around the city each year and that the event be organised by a “broad-based network of people who are committed to freedom for all… with clear reporting lines and accountability checks and balances”.
Significantly it insists that the event is “not sponsored by corporations” that showcase their “liberal stance and/or policies on LGBT issues with the overt or subliminal intention of deflecting attention from or downplaying its non-liberal or oppressive policies/practices on other issues”.
The document further calls for the event to be “all-inclusive of progressive left forces, including trade unions, women’s movements, sex workers’ rights movements” and that it has “clear feminist, socialist and anti-racist politics”.
The group also suggests that the weeks or days preceding the march include “film screenings, book discussions, educational spaces and radically fun parties which are inclusive and non-expensive”.
At Saturday’s meeting, the participants were asked by a show of hands if they wanted Joburg Pride to take place, as proposed by Kaye, this year. While most voted to go ahead, 10 or so participants from the second group did not raise their hands.
Kaye told Mambaonline that she was frustrated that a small group of people were trying to “hold the event back”.
“I’ve come to a stage that I believe that they have any opinion but are not willing to listen to anyone else’s opinion. They are refusing 20,000 people’s voices [who took part in pride last year] to be heard because just 10% of people want to change the essence of pride,” she said.
Kaye also argued that the demands in the document are unrealistic and unreasonable, questioning how a 20,000 people strong event can be held for free without corporate sponsorship.
“And how can we have a safe space without fences?” she asked.
Another participant at the meeting, who asked not be named, told Mambaonline that the second group is “saying all the right things but behind that they have wrong intensions. Pride is being hijacked by a feminist organisation”, he insisted.
Carrie Shelver from One in Nine said she was surprised by these comments, and felt that Saturday’s meeting was in fact very positive and was part of a long overdue process of reassessing and reclaiming Joburg Pride.
“It was a fantastic opportunity for people to debate and express themselves openly and honestly,” she said. She noted that the document distributed at the meeting was a work in progress and she called for other people to add their voices to it.
She also insisted that the group that had put together the document was not One in Nine but a collection of individuals from diverse backgrounds. She said that she was wary of creating an ‘us and them’ scenario.
Shelver noted that there is a great deal of common ground between the two groups and that “we’re all in this together. We need to find ways of how we can work out the things we don’t agree on”.
“It can be a painful and difficult process but I’m very positive that we can make it work. Trust the process,” she said, adding that she remained committed to working with the first group and all interested individuals.
Kaye told Mambaonline that she would be posting a poll on Facebook to gauge the community’s feelings towards some of the issues brought up at the meeting. (The poll can be found here.)
Meanwhile, the second group will be holding a follow-up meeting on Saturday 4 May at 11am at Constitution Hill.
Shelver said that she hopes that the meeting will look at ways to implement the ideas expressed by the group in its working document. She called on all members of the LGBT community to attend and take part.
Since when has Joburg Pride been about feminists and racism? It’s meant to be about the LGBTI as a whole, not an exclusive event for woman and gender issues alone?!?!?!?!
I think Pride should also be for people like you rob who do not know what feminism is and what is it all about
Firstly – i am gay and really don’t like the word Queer. Secondly – why don’t One in Nine and FEW go and organise a Pride event of their own if they have so many views on it. The 10 people who want something else could make their own committee. Oh wait – they do – it is called Soweto Pride, it has no sponsorship, little support, little marketing, 500 participants…and they actually got funding and logistical advice from Joburg Pride. lmao.
It is very divisive to accuse the so called “Feminists” that they want to hi-jack pride. Is corporate sponsorship (that almost always demands something in return for their money) the only option? What about Social investment by companies and Crowd Funding. Long overdue issues have to be resolved. Yes there has been Racism and Classism at Pride. Many people are oblivious to the fact that we apparently have our rights and just need to celebrate. Wrong. Many people out there, Black Lesbians, Transgender and Gays are facing a constant struggle in not just the townships. Their rights are not recognised. We are far from a Free country when it comes to LGBTI rights despite what the media brainwashes us to believe. Pride was originally a Protest March for LGBTI rights with an afterparty but it had become a Drinking Fest slash flea market with not much of a Soul. Those people who have been criticising 1in9 and FEW for their efforts should maybe attend their workshops and meetings to get a better understanding of what they really are about. I did. The first meeting 1in9 and FEW hosted was actually a community Workshop which discussed challenges with Pride and Visions for the Future. Everybody from different backgrounds, Races and orientations were welcome and many people were invited. Groundbreaking work was achieved. So now when people sit and just criticise these activists who are actually actively engaging with other interest groups, my question is: Where have those critics been or are you just gonna rock up at Pride this year and expect something to just happen by itself? That is what has caused the mess Pride is in right now, lack of involvement.
Excuse me while I vomit…. since when and where exactly has a group of hard-core feminist lesbian comrades ever been able to do anything except cause chaos? OK maybe they score one miserable point for their affinity for feminist poetry but then – damn – they also lose three points for their Tracy Chapman CD collections and their love for Black Label. 1 in 9 and FEW give ordinary lesbians a bad name! And yes bitches grow up – NOT everything must be political – what’s political about teaspoons, Cream Soda and chutney? These sad creatures, who like to call themselves “damaged” or “wounded” or “survivors” but also demand superior rights, are often retired self-mutilators who grow tied of cutting and now just try vent their rage at everyone else. a lesbian doesn’t support them she also becomes the “other”. I DEMAND to be part of your “other”.
Reading this comment from u Thandi makes me have two feelings about it. The first one is, clearly u do not have a clue what exactly is politics but u want to believe u do. The second feeling I have is that u might be white just using a black woman’s name cos I do not believe that there is any black sister who could claim she has never seen anything wrong with the current Pride. Give urself time to come to the meeting on the 4th u might learn 1 or 2 things about politics and u will be suprised to learn how much politics surround cream soda or chutney for that matter. See u at the Con Hill on the 4th @11 am.
If this was playing out in Cape Town I’d suspect the sinister twisted sister Van Ludgwig, self-proclaimed feminist extraordinaire but darker than purple velvet.
Watch as it implodes. Popcorn anyone?
i DONT SEE THE BIG FUSS ABOUT THIS. WE MUST JUST SUPPORT THEM TO BRING SOMETHING NEW INSTEAD OF BEEN SARCASTIC…FOR GOD SAKE JUST GROW UP PLEASE!!!
I dont see anything about racism here…The pride has been always in Zoo Lake why not change and have it in Soweto just like the World Cup in the Soccer City Stadium. We are so hypocrite to talk about ‘racism’ but what about something different???At least these people are thinking of something different, you bunch of ‘moffies’ who just like to get drunk in Zoo Lake every year. What change are you bringing to the pride? Get drunk and get fuck????
If there would be 2 prides a year in both areas then later in the years they get fused togther there really wouldn’t be a problem,wat is importnt is d success of th event. Do not force people to change so radicaly especialy if there are more chnces of losing than winning.
All of this debate is unnecessarily divisive. While I agree that there needs to be substantially more political motivation behind Pride – there needs to be a balancing of the party/social aspect too. The “radical” feminist side needs to be incorporated – but not at the expense of corporate funding opportunities. On the topic of crowd funding – the model will NEVER work. Out In Africa (which is in my opinion a truly worthy cause) hasn’t been able to make it work – and they have been trying to be self-sustaining for years. Let’s not be naive and self-serving with this, at the end of the day it is meant to be a celebration of our collective identity as an LGBTI community.
Debate across class, race, gender, sexual preference, religious believes, etc. is difficult and becomes divisive if people think that one conversation will result in consensus and a unified “rainbow nation”. I was at the last two meetings and can say that while it was frustrating and difficult at times, it was a necessary conversation that has the potential to result in a much more inclusive Joburg pride – that will not be without issues but the point is that we need to see the organisation of pride as transparent and accountable to the diverse LGBTi community and not corporate sponsors. That is not saying that there shouldn’t be sponsorship. But the event should not be driven by corporate interests. Celebration is an important part of pride but it also has to be about education. Joburg Pride in the early 90’s was part of creating visibility and leverage for some of the rights that we have today. Why is it so difficult for people to agree that pride should be about partying AND about ensuring that we push for the realisation of the rights that were won for the LGBTI community, so that all LGBTI people can benefit? Is our LGBTI community really so short sighted that they would want to drink and dance and completely ignore that there are many hate crimes against LGBTI people (as example)? I challenge everyone who has tons to say online about this to actually take some time out and come to the open meeting on the 4th May at 11am at Constitution Hill. It is not a meeting of feminists only. It is an open public meeting for anyone in the community to contribute to. It is a political act to do and say nothing; it is a political act to only make divisive comments online; it is a political act to try and engage about creating a new pride, it is a political act to keep pride as an event that makes money.
Just ignore the feminist communists and go on and arrange a commercial Pride as always. Samantha is already doing it … so meet until you are blue – bye.