TUTU ‘WILL BURN IN HELL’
The Rev Oscar Peter Bougardt
A Cape Town pastor has called gays and lesbians drug addicts and child molesters and said that Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu will burn in hell for supporting the LGBT community.
The Rev Oscar Peter Bougardt, a Christian Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and senior pastor at Calvary H.O.P.E Ministries in Mitchells Plain, launched his extraordinary tirade against gay and lesbian people in unsolicited e-mails to local LGBT websites.
In the shocking and badly-written e-mails, Bougardt said that his “mission is to take out all lesbians and gays because they are a bunch of idiots who confuse our children”.
The pastor also said that “their lifestyle is an abomination to God and that gays and lesbians should know that they are going to burn in hell”.
He ranted that the “majority of them are drug addicts, and they offer our teenagers and children drugs and alcohol and once they are drugged and drunk they are seduced and end up having sexual relation with them”.
Bougardt also claimed that gay men are increasingly seducing apparently hapless straight men away from their heterosexual families and wives, insisting that this “is not a rare phenomenon”.
“Lesbians and gays are a curse on any community. I believe that a man that sleeps with another man doesn’t deserve to be part of a healthy community and I will mobilise the masses to stop them,” said the pastor.
When contacted by Mambaonline, Bougardt was unrepentant. We asked if he was not concerned that his comments could incite violence against gays and lesbians but he denied that this was his intention.
“If I say take out homosexuals, I mean they must be removed from our communities…You interpret that I am inciting violence against homosexuals, I see it is making our people aware that their lifestyles should not be approved by any healthy community. Just as homosexuals have the right to express their views, I have the right to express mine,” he said.
Mambaonline asked Bougardt if he had any kind of academic, official or scientific support for his claims that most gay people are drug addicts and engage in raping children and seducing heterosexual married men.
“Where I stay you don’t need academic, government or scientific statistics,” he said, adding that “homosexuality is spreading faster than HIV and AIDS”.
Mambaonline also asked how he could be so sure of God’s views on homosexuality when other Christian leaders, such as Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, held a contrary opinion, to which Bougardt replied:
“Desmond Tutu will burn in hell for misleading homosexuals and for saying God don’t have a problem with them. I don’t care what Desmond Tutu have to say, nowhere in the Bible are we told to expect homosexuals. The Bible teaches they are an abomination to God.”
In his e-mail to Mambaonline, Bougardt attached a picture of himself “so that you and all your readers know how I look, and to give you the assurance I don’t care how you or your readers feel about me”.
That’s it, pastor, use your religion to spread hatred and violence, and seperation, and rejection, “just like Jesus did”…. And then you call yourself a man of God? Mamba, we should rather all mobilise and get this man removed from clergy. He is more dangerous to people than gays could ever be, and has no place in a healthy society.
Pasor God bless you I wish Iwas in your church.Sodom annoys God,and that was the reason for the floods and Noah was saved because he was clean.never slept with another
man
Listen to the pastor playing Gods role he is the one who will burn in hell for his hatred on God’s children
Sounds like Fred Phelps!!!!!!
The pastor need more sheep that will follow him blindly. Just a ploy to fill the churches coffers
ummm, just like he cant help being coloured, I cant help being white… and so, being gay.
My gaydar just “pinged” There is no doubt this what this guy is… A self hating closet case. Yes guys mark his face very well cause he’s probly been in a darkroom near u. These disillusioned so called men of the cloth who use MY GOD to spread thier own insecurities and self-loathing are an affront to us Human beings everywhere n Im ashamed to know that he is gay n he can be so destructive to HIS own community instead of using his platform for what it was meant for. These closet case pastors should read that bible they love misquoting so much A little closer… They must remember that God does not appreciate false prophacy n the consequences for that is much worse cause ur Damning ur followers to Hell with u n thier blood will be on ur hands.
*Yawn*
Please it’s some kooky put together spring up from some back kitchen church. Rather than getting upset perhaps one could just say “Judge not lest you be judged, Pastor”. Of course maybe this doos thinks that the world is ending on the 21st….
#gayface
Get off your cross dude. We need the wood
Ref Bougardt mentions that gay people’s “lifestyle is an abomination to God”. I suppose he read this in Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, the same book in the Bible that says you should be stoned to death when you swear. So he does indeed support violence and murder? If ref Bougardt read the first page in the book, maybe he would have noticed that these “rules” were meant for the communities of Israel during a period of reconciliation with God, and not meant for the community of Mitchells Plain, the rest of South Africa or the world in 2011.
It is someone like ref Bougardt who is the real threat to his community- who misinterprets religion and selectively apropriates those aspects he understands, while condemning the rest irrelevant to his own personal life. He is misleading people on a fabricated path of his personal beliefs instead of conveying the real message of the Bible (and most other religions for that matter): love and acceptance.
Bitch much? Preach much? Leech much? PS, Love the dress? Drag much? *smiley*
that guy looks gay
These folk are so confused ! Religion is a prime source of division and conflict – get over yourself dude
What a knob.
I wonder what’s under his frock??
1 Samuel 20:41
“After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side of the stone and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with is face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together – but David wept the most.” (NIV)
2 Samuel 1:26
“I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women.”
The bible was translated by humans and some with limited intelligence like our GAY Rev Oscar Peter Bougardt … stupit bitch
The translators of the Living Bible apparently could not handle the thought of two adult men kissing, so they mistranslated the passage by saying that the two men shook hands! This is somewhat less than honest. The original Hebrew text says that they kissed each other and wept together until David became great. The word which means “great” in this passage is “gadal” in the original Hebrew. The same word is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures to refer to King Solomon being greater than all other kings. Some theologians interpret “gadal” in this verse as indicating that David had an erection. However, the thoughts of David becoming sexually aroused after kissing Jonathan may have been too threatening for Bible translators. They either deleted the ending entirely or created one of their own.
Yes Yes Rev. Mike
CAN I BE A MEMBER IN YOUR CHURCH ….
I feel sorry for the Rev, and at the same time I want to help him. This is just a lonely over-weight gay man who needs attention and notice …he also needs a good fuck and hell keep quiet… ag nee man
My thoughts exactly…
Oops TUTU is not going to burn hell or going to heaven. Let God decide on that …
Then you will frie in hell for being so judgemental, doesnt your bible teach you that “its God place to judge?” you dont have to like it but dont you think a man of your title should know better? What are you? God?
I feel very sorry for you, cause pastor you should be praying about this so called “sin” like any other and ask your God to have mercy BUT no mr. no it all you busy judging…
I get it, we know nothing about you, now you want to be famous so you decided to use to famous things “Tutu and L&G” nci nci nci, i pray for you
I have already written to this parody of self-righteousness. I believe that pwople who espouse views such as his, are truly anti-christ and might well be the fore-runner of those dubbed the ANTI-CHRIST. You don’t have to sport horns and a forked tail to be the devil incarnate. The obscenity is that this “joke” wears the dove of peace on his robes. He wouldn’t know what one was if it shat from a great height in to his eyes!
I’ve been reading through the rest of these comments….he has got it SO wrong hasn’t he!!!!! I totally agree with the Gaydar Operator…..those robes are hiding a lot of that man’s baggage….or should I say “package”?
This is a man with limited intelligence … oh he is a stupid man. He actually doesnt merit preaching at church … what significance is he advocating?
Alan, I do not think there is any “package” there … this girl needs a fuck … please just look at him/her …ag whatever
Does the Reverend thank God when he reads about the serial killer targeting gay men in Jozi ?
Rev “If I say take out homosexuals, I mean they must be removed from our communities …
Is it possible to send the original email to nmbpride2012@gmail.com ? Thanks
HE’S WEARING PURPLE!!!! Does he know what that means?
His just being a pr uss because know man wants him.
Howzit Alan Edwards , I have sent him my normal info. Hopefully he will understand it. I wonder if he realises that he is breaking the law of the land which denotes that hate speech is a criminal offence and Jesus and the Bible said you must comply with the laws of the land or else you are in sin. Guess what Oscar , you are a sinner. I dont know if you are a child molestor or other kind of sodomite but remember that Sodom was destroyed precisely because of people like you.Ezekiel 16:49 says the following : Behold this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before me therefore I took them away as I saw good.
In Luke’s Gospel (10:12), Jesus also understands the sin of Sodom to be inhospitality. In fact, Jesus says nothing anywhere in the Bible about homosexuality, but he has a lot to say about the importance of welcoming people.
According to the Bible, the sin of Sodom is failure to welcome people who are different. By biblical standards, then, those who fail to welcome GLBT people are the real sodomites that the Bible condemns.
In addition, the relationship between David and Jonathan tends to think that love between two people of the same sex was not a Biblical issue.
In Samuel, their love for each other exceeds a normal plutonic relationship.
Saul sees through their relationship and says to Jonathan, his son
(1 Sam 20 vs 30), Do Not I know thou has chosen the Son of Jesse (David) to thine own confusion, and to the confusion of thy mothers nakedness? The very words used by King Saul make it absolutely clear that David and Jonathan were indeed romantically involved.
In addition, there are 3 occasions where they swear a bond by covenant. This actually in Biblical time would be deemed marriage. Some of their statement included Johanathan to David Whatsoever thy soul desireth, I will even do it for thee.
Davids poem in 2 Sam, Chap 1:26 to Jonathan , Very pleasant thou has been to me, passing the love of women
Saul tell Jonathan of his plan to kill David in a drunken moment and Jonathan runs to David and tell him to flee for his life (1 Sam Chap 20: 41).They are so distraught at having to depart from each other that they kissed one another and wept one with another until David exceeded
Again rather strange behavior from a Prince and his subject.
The meaning of the word exceeded from the Hebrew Higdal means to make large/enlarge. The word in context, according to Jewish scholars, could apply to a male who is sexually erect which would fit this passionate picture. And if God did not condemn it there is nothing to be ashamed of.
I always believed the story of David and Jonathan was used by gay extremists to defend homosexuality, but the more I read into it and based my observations on the scriptures the more I realized that we have a same sex love story, whether physical or not, in the very Bible fundamentalists use to critisise gay people.
In conclusion, I really believe that to be gay is not only OK but great. There is no condemnation of people in a loving relationship either gay or straight. It is how we choose to live that relationship that is important in terms of God and the Bible. Relationships are to be built on love, loyalty, respect, honor and honesty.
Also, our relationship with God is exactly that, OUR relationship. It does not matter what others think about you its important what you think about God and yourself.
To all my brothers and sisters – Dont worry about ignorant supposedly men of God who dont even know the very book they quote from- Scary that they see themselves as leaders – They are the very people that God will say to “I know you not!” To you all stand tall and live proud !!
ramblings of a demented man…who really cares
Lets see how he deals with this email !
Dear Reverend
I understand that as a gay person I must be removed from my community:
Please help me with the process by answering a number of my questions so that I can explore my options.
1. Im not sure if i want to be “taken out” or “removed”? Do i have a choice in the matter?
2. If I have a choice, please arrange that I be “taken out”. Its been years since anyone took me out ! But there you go hey, the dating game is not what it used to be!
3. If I have to be “removed”, with regard to the actual movement, who organizers the movers? Me? You?
2. If possible, could we please use ‘Pickfords’? The last time I moved I used ‘Stuttafords Van Lines’, and they were quite useless.
3. Where do you plan for me to move to ?
4. My husband is Afrikaans. Does that mean we should move to Orania?
5. I have heard that gays are not very well received in Orania.
6. Do you think I should stick it out here in Durban instead of opting for Orania?
7. Do you think a gated community golf estates could be considered? – like Zimbali or Pezulu – but I also understand that they are not so fond of alternative families like mine.
8. Zimbali and Pezulu do not take pets and that is a big problem for me.
9. Both my pets are gay – the good Lord ensured that they were born that way before we even had the chance to influence them – fancy that hey ! Does that mean they must be moved too? Or can they just be “taken out” on a regular walk. Once a day would do if you can spare someone from the congregation.
10. Will the movers list and pack all of my household contents? You know thats always a terrible schlepp when you move! And us gays are so fussy in case our things get broken.
11. Do you cover costs if I want to be removed to a foreign country?
12. If I ever want to move to heaven do i need your permission ?
I await with bated breath your response as I am sure that in your wisdom you will have all the answers.
Kind regards
Michael
Really enjoyed it
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Sorry.. who on earth can take a man in a dress seriously ?. .. Fat ass idiot..
What an ass! So typical of South African churches, no wonder they are all empty!
Spoke to this “man” and realised that he is a lost cause. I am absolutely sure that a gay individual has done him or his family harm, as when I posed the quaestion he just closed up completely. As I said to him do not judge all people when one person may have been an a-hole. Filled with hate – a real Christian he is. As I said to him I could also stereotype and say that all Coloureds are drunks – obviously not true and while you get gay people that may be evil that is the same of all sectors of the population. Seriously – a lost cause- dont even waste any emotion on him – he does not respond to any form of logic
Hate speech and the promotion of intolerance towards minorities remains illegal, whether you care about what this man says or not. Do yourselves and future generations of GLBT persons a favour, and act against this man’s hatred by lodging a complaint against him with the SAHRC today. If you don’t, you might as well move to Uganda – there people don’t care either whether you live or die.
Where the fuck is the dislike button on this page
Plz could you just show me where in the bible it says that we as gay people will go the hell???you the,one that’s passing judgment will burn in hell like anyone really cares what you have to say…..you don’t deserve to be a Minister or whatever you are your not even a true Christian because those who worship God knows not to judge…..if the bible said that I’m going to hell for being gay maybe then you had n foot to stand on intel then shut the hell up asshole and go read your bible….and plz do you want to tell me that straight people don’t do drugs or rape????hahaha what an asshole get your facts right……
LESBIANS???? Fuck what’s wrong with that its how we choose to live our life we are not drug addicts just addicted to woman maybe! Bro lighten up, its the new SA we don’t give shit about you coloured ppl its our nature and its how we are made so please don’t judge!! And who the fuck are harrassing children ahhhh please!! Your just makin accuses u can’t prove!! Gee nice purple coat you know purple is a sexualy frustrated colour right?? Grow up!!
we dont give a shit about you coloured ppl? Yolandi you belong in the same trash can as him
Bwahahahaha! What a funny littrle man.
Lol an rev with a gmail addy. Gaan swot 7 jaar boet, dan sal niemand jou steeds ernstig opneem nie
This hate speech.
Bougardt wants gays to be removed from communities but he claims that he is not calling for violence. My question is how does he want these folks removed from communities. Quoting Scripture means nothing if you show yourself to be a hypocrite.
an illusionist, advocating murder
Too bad we don’t have the “balls” to drag him to court. We can surely do something?
I agree with him – Take us OUT – out to lunch, out to dinner, out to the movies…. IDIOT!!
This reverend is a perfect example of a homophobic person and do you know what a homophobe is ??? He is someone that has taken it up the arse and LOVED it !!! So my advice to you Rev. Bougardt is to stop fiddling with them altar boys and go out and find yourself a real man …. you uneducated, uncivilized .. barbaric, fit for nothing coward !! focus all that negative energy you have on finding the people who are murdering the little children in your community … and from what i hear , it’s your kind that is committing these murders …. the straight kind!!!
Can someone please tell this man to spit out his friends before bitching cuase he is seriously alking a whole load of shit in a very short space of time!
I really don’t think we should be taking the ramblings of a misinformed, bigoted, hypocritical individual who reckons he has an ear to God that seriously. The same God who created me this way you spazz, and the one who doesn’t make mistakes. I would probably say he’s just a wee bit jealous of our fabulousness or a bit sexually repressed. Homophobes usually are. Does this constitute hate speech btw? If so, shouldn’t we take action?
I really don’t think we should be taking the ramblings of a misinformed, bigoted, hypocritical individual who reckons he has an ear to God that seriously. The same God who created me this way you spazz, and the one who doesn’t make mistakes. I would probably say he’s just a wee bit jealous of our fabulousness or a bit sexually repressed. Homophobes usually are. Does this constitute hate speech btw? If so, shouldn’t we take action?
Who actually cares where Tutu goes
Yoh thank God I’m a hindu. We’re lucky in that none of our scriptures condemn any form of homosexuality. Infact the gays and lesbies are mentioned in the sacred texts, the kama sutras as well as depicted in sculptures in many famous ancient temples! But as the times are a changing there are a few radical hindus who condemn homosexuality. I feel sorry for this pastor, someone should teach him that hate is NOT part of the Bible because GOD IS LOVE and God loves everyone. Power to the True Christians!
This is a problem with protestant churches today, they love to play God. How many of his straight male church members are involved with promiscuity and adultery. What it good for the goose is good for the gander.
In scripture it is written that if you hate your brother from whom you have seen and say you love God from whom you have not then you are a liar. This is when the devil stands and preachers in the pulpit.
So much info in so few words. Tosltoy could learn a lot.
Surely he should be someone’s slave if we take the bible at its face value! This is why, in theory, I respect Muslims more, because they in force all their crazy laws of religion. Examples include losing hands for stealing, unwitnessed rape results in women being punished for adultery, etcetera.
What a great rserouce this text is.
It is very difficult to see this pastor as a practicing Christian with his harsh comments and judgment which he passes on without any facts at all. he is clearly stupid and on a road to a very sad life. He is probably suffering from internalised homophobia. Let this creature be.
WHAT A FUCKING TOOL
Homosexuality is an abomination and those who practice homosexuality is going to burn in hell. God is Holy and He hates sin. I don’t care what your readers have to say about me, the truth shall set me free. Homosexuals is a curse in any community and they must be rooted out of our communities. They confuse our children with their lifestyles and the spread faster than diseases like HIV/aids and TB. Homosexuals must repent and turn to God.
I think this Rev Bougardt should be made to step down as a Pastor, It is all right for a person to have there own views , But as a person of god should be a little more forgiving and be a little more less violent in his words!!!! Shame On You Rev.
Reverend Bougardt is a joke people. I believe he only has 15 followers. The pastors and Leaders of Cape Town is not with him, not even his community. A friend of mine told me that he tried to arrange a rally against gays and only 13 people showed up. This fool is an island on his own. I can prove to you he is busy with a cult. He does not serve God. A man that serves God cant be the only one that is right and everybody else is wrong. He sees fault with other Pastors. One Pastor in Mitchells Plain told me that he Condems any preacher that he dislikes. Any way. This fool rev Bougardt stole R8000 from my brother in law. he also charged my brother in law’s friends money to clear their names from ITC, takes their money and they remain blacklisted> He is a thief and a scam. I know he stays at nr. 22 Pointer way in Strandfontein. Can the people and the orginizations organize a protest march against this fool who says he has followers. The people of Cape Town hates him and his cult views. I also heard from a friend of mine that works in Cape Town at Tygerberg hospital that his wife complaints about the reverend’s lazy attitude. she says he does not work and she must cover the bills. This guy has no following, come on fellow people lets get out there and share his adress so that people can go and confront him personally. he is a scam and a thief. By the way a Pastor in delft told me that one of his members was in this cult of reverend bougardt. this source says reverend bougardt also stole the churches money and that also one reason why the rev was kicked out of delft.
His adress is nr 28 Pointer way Strandfontein Cape Town, and not nr 22 Pointer way. Come on all lets go for this fool reverend bougardt.
and this pastor will flame in hell, Cos Jesus will save Tutu and all LGBTI people
@ paster since You and the big man are so close could please reread your bible and this time do it like slow cause you a chunk of information regardly Gods uncoditional for all who dwell on earth. until you learn how to love regardlessly i humbly suggest
It is people like this that give Christianity a bad name and make others believe God hates them. It is wicked and should be stopped!
Take us OUT?? Poor darling, we are already out
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Ag shame, the pastor probably takes it up the bum, wears his wife’s stockings when she is with the koeksisters from the gemeente.