INTERNET PORN: IS IT CHEATING?
Recently I discovered where television psychotherapist Dr. Phil stands on pornography. He believes that looking at porn is “never okay” and that it is “always cheating” on a partner.
WOW!
Those are strong and harsh beliefs to make a blanket statement about all pornography and those who view it. It reminds me of syndicated talk show host Dr. Laura stands on so many topics around sexuality. She has a black and white thinking about things being either right or wrong. Oh if it were so easy and simple. But it is not! We therapists teach our clients – and especially our couples – never to say the words “always” and “never” because they are seldom true. While I agree that pornography can become an addiction and not be healthy for some people, it is for many others.
Here is what Dr. Phil writes on his website:
Internet pornography is a growing trend that has many people worried about their relationships.
Is it cheating? And is it a “normal guy thing”? Here’s what Dr. Phil believes:
It is not OK behaviour. It is a perverse and ridiculous intrusion into your relationship. It is an insult, it is disloyal and it is cheating. Consider how it makes your partner feel. If it makes your partner feel ugly, hurt, deceived, lied to or inadequate, then it needs to stop. If it is eroding your relationship, it’s gone too far. Pornography isn’t real, it’s a fantasy. It’s makeup, beauty lenses, hair extensions, camera angles, lighting and silicone! It’s also somebody’s daughter who has taken a really, really wrong turn. She’s demeaning herself, debasing herself, humiliating herself and she’s being exploited by people who are funded by you.
It is a sick, demented, twisted world. It’s not healthy, it’s not natural and it’s not normal. Viewing Internet pornography or engaging in cybersex is a short step to taking cheating to the next level. You need to tell your partner that viewing pornography is absolutely, unequivocally unacceptable in your relationship.
Draw a line: Your partner needs to choose between the pornography or the relationship. Ask yourself or your partner:
- Would you do it with your partner standing right there?
- Are you turning outside of your relationship to meet a need that should be met within the relationship?
You can’t change what you don’t acknowledge, so find out if you or your partner have a problem.
- Do you justify the behaviour by saying, “It’s harmless,” “Everyone does it,” or “It’s just the Internet”?
- Does it intrude on your relationship? Which is more important: pornography or your relationship?
I completely disagree with Dr. Phil’s position. Here are my responses to his questions:
Would you do it with your partner standing right there?
Some people would and, in fact, I have advised some couples (both gay, lesbian and straight) to do so. It can enhance intimacy in couples. Also there are many instances where individuals don’t want their partners to see their porn. It is private and personal. Partners sometimes need to have this outlet. It has nothing to do with their significant others. It is not cheating and does not mean that the person viewing the porn is going to set out to make the scenario happen.
That said, there are many people who have significant shame about looking at pornography and the content of what they are looking at. I think this might be what Dr. Phil is addressing. Even so, every person needs to have their own separate sexual fantasies and desires that may not involve their significant other.
Are you turning outside of your relationship to meet a need that should be met within the relationship?
You can’t change what you don’t acknowledge, so find out if you or your partner have a problem. This can be about anything – not just pornography. With any behaviours that are excessive or are interfering with your relationship, you must ask yourself this question. I do think that partners benefit from talking about their sexual interests and not hiding the fact that they might enjoy pornography. It is the hiding and secrecy that is usually the problem, not the pornography in and of itself.
Do you justify the behaviour by saying, “It’s harmless,” “Everyone does it,” or “It’s just the Internet”?
For many folks, it is harmless and it is just the internet. I have had clients over the years tell me that they enjoy certain fantasies that their partner will not – or cannot meet. For example, one client of mine enjoyed extremely muscular men who entered muscle building contests. His partner, a smaller man, did not visually fit this image. So periodically he enjoyed looking at images of these muscular me online and it offered him an outlet for his interest without his going out of his relationship.
Does it intrude on your relationship?
This is a great question and should be asked to one’s self by all. I have many clients for which the use of pornography does intrude on a relationship. But the reasons vary. Some partners are threatened by the use of pornography by a spouse. The question here is “why are they threatened?” It isn’t always because their partner is abusing porn. It may very well be their own insecurities being raised by their partners viewing images that they cannot match. This is more of an issue that the non-pornography using partner has than the one viewing the sexual material.
Couples need to communicate openly their feelings about pornography use within their marriage. The worst is to keep it a secret or to pretend it is not a problem if one or both have a problem with it. However to assume that the use of pornography alone is the only issue is narrow focused and as harmful as pretending it is never a problem at all. Which is more important: pornography or your relationship? For some, it is both. There is nothing wrong with that. For others it is one or the other which, of course presents a problem.
Porn. My partner and I have been together for over two years, we have a very healthy sex life and we enjoy browsing and watching porn together. We don’t do it all the time, cause that would seem unhealthy.
In the end we gay and we like naked hot men…so I think Dr Phil was talking to and about the straights
lol
….. Dr Phil is a tired old duck who likes the sound of his voice a little too much! Him and his wife, with her overly white teeth, get me reaching for the remote faster than a speeding bullet (and before I have to hear any of those cheap, mundane catch phrases!)
Now that that is over, lol, my partner (of eleven years) and I enjoy watching porn together on a regular basis. We find it enhances our sex life by getting us to experiment (safely, of course) or to role play some of the scenes. It’s not an intrusion, it’s not cheating, and we discussed the issue before bringing porn into the relationship & the bedroom. For us personally it has kept our sex life exciting and fresh.
Great!. Great if it helps you guys…but the point is if you’d like it if your boyfriend watches porn without you.
Also, Dr. Phil ain’t all that bad. It isn’t always nice to hear the things we don’t want to hear, knowing it actually has some merit.
….. I know I’ve never watched porn without him being there and I trust him enough not to do the same thing. And if he has (or does) then I know he’ll tell me and we can discuss the whole why issue in a mature manner. Will I feel like he has cheated on me? No. Cheating (for me) is defined physically. Porn is fantasy. It’s an escape. Will it drive him to cheat? I don’t think so because we are willing to (safely) meet each others fantasies, which has kept our relationship monogamous. We don’t let “it” intrude on our relationship (and yes, our sex life is also great without the porn), it hasn’t changed us into raving sex craved lunatics, and we are not depraved just because we use porn every so often to spice things up. If porn is considered cheating then sex toys must be considered the same. If you walked in on your partner and he was (um, how to put his decently) using a dildo, would that be considered cheating?
Personally, couples need to deal with this type of issue on their own in an open & honest setting. If couples cannot be open & honest with each other then there are more serious underlying issues other than the porn.
Reply to Xris. You’ve given a great answer and I completely agree with you. I honestly hope that I, and many others, can find the same kind of monogamous relationship with a healthy and yet adventurous sex life. Thumbs up on that one!
Opposing view. Actually, I agree with dr Phil. People who act in porn are almost always enticed into something that will have/has a long-term negative impact on them. ‘Raw’ porn (no condom use) has increased and is credited for increases in risky behaviour amongst many gay men. To get some of the onscreen behaviour drug use is rife and encouraged. It is not healthy and it is not realistic and it is in fact rather sick.
As to whether or not it is healthy or ‘correct’ for gay men in relationships to watch porn, I honestly don’t care. But porn is similar to eating foie gras. Decadent, but only possible because of the abuse of others.
Middleground. I believe that there are certain things that Dr Phil mentions that isn’t all untrue __ although he obviously has a very strong opinion about it. I would rather go for the middle ground and ask myself how would I want to be treated. Would I like it if my boyfriend watches porn without me? Indeed not! I don’t have a major problem with porn at all, but I would want to use it only to enhance my sexual relationship with my partner and nothing more. If it becomes the only way for us to be intimate or get things going, something must be wrong or missing in our relationship. I cannot imagine any reason why my boyfriend would want to watch porn without me being there. It’s simply hurtful and even a form of rejection. I’ve gone through that kind of hurt before, and call me old fashioned, but that’s just not on.
I agree with you!. I am in the situation where my lover feels that he should be watching porn alone – he even does it at work! It is hurtful and I feel rejected at the best of times. It is not the porn that worries me, but it is the fact that we are not always able to share it. He is on all sorts of site and most of them porn sites – the ones I know of!
Agree. I agree with Dr Phill 150%
If your partner is browsing porn sites …it means that you are not satifying his needs …which means there is a problem in the relationship.
Dr Phill – you rock – thanks for speaking out on this topic where others has dreaded to tredd because they are afraid they will offend people (or loose popularity) …even though they know they are wrong when they say its OK.
Bravo Dr Phil!. Dr Phil hit it spot on here.
Regular porn viewers do not realise the subtle damage porn does to your sexual being.
I’m not trying to be puritanical here and if it makes you happy to watch porn and be in a relationship then so be it. However, Joe Kort is trying to justify it and create some sort of validation for a pretty debasing act that subterfuges your mental relationship with your partner.
If you need porn in your relationship then there’s something missing.
Dr Who?. Having never watched Dr Phil or any other TV pop psychologist, I can only assume he is for the conservative middle American population.
With regards to porn internet or otherwise both my partner enjoy watching porn, but completely different genres he likes muscles, I like twinks, by watching each others favoured genre, we have found that porn has enhanced our sex lives and has encouraged an open honest relationship where we can share our fantasies with out fear of being judged or found lacking.
I would not encourage couples who are not in an honest relationship to watch porn as I feel that it may be harmful
You know…. Ive been reading these … articles on and off for a while.
So far , its said ,
Porn is actually okay.
3-somes are okay , ( if two people trust each other that is )
Partying till 5 every wednesday, friday, saturday and sunday is okay.
Drugs are okay ( if taken safely that is ) ,
If your not a nympho then its strictly NOT okay.
So… is this a real Psychotherapist or is this some guy trying to get laid ? ” and then saying if your not okay, then your insecure but…
Seriously…
Its all great saying that ” Ive had clients over the years tell me…
Doesnt saying that make just about any damned person insecure ?
If you have a partner , and you still need porn, then just go.
You should find your partner attractive and more importantly love them for their truths AND flaws.
Dont go into something , if you just want to cut corners and do crap like this.
If porn means so much to you, then marry it.
POrn. I fully agree with KYLE! If you need pron then there is something seriously wrong…
WOW. I like your response and agree with your observations and I am really TIRED of the excuse of WE ARE MEN, MEN ARE HUNTERS, WE ARE ALL MEN and so it goes on and on. If you want all of this don’t mess with other people – stay single and enjoy your life! Are there really no morals and values keeping people together?
Open realtionships – what is the point?
All of this is just wat to much for me! Why is it so difficult to find people who are interested in real commitment, real love and building lasting realtions?
It’s all relative. I generally have issues with Dr Phil and the way he does things. I think it’s exploitative of him. On this topic specifically I totally disagree with him. It’s clear to me in his statements that he has personal issues with porn resulting in his passing of judgement on those who do watch porn.
Nothing is black and white…one can’t say it is “never ok”…because sometimes (often, actually) it IS ok. Who is HE to say that porn isn’t ok for me or for you. It’s all dependent on the relationship and the negotiated agreement between the 2 parties IN THAT RELATIONSHIP. There are no hard-and-fast set of rules that apply to everyone. The relationship is determined by the 2 people who comprise it…not by Dr Phil and his seriously scewed judgemental ranting.
It’s a simple case of rather be safe then sorry so I think Dr. Phil’s advice is good *smiley*
It’s personal. I’ll make up my own mind thank you. The whole point of porn is exactly that it is fantasy. I am sure there are a few pathologies out there that render the individual incapable of differentiating between fantasy and reality, but for I am sure most of us can tell the difference. My question is, why is there such a presumption of shame around the topic? If we find an image beautiful AND arousing, why can it not just be beautiful and arousing? Why must it be “debasing” to anyone? Sure, the porn industry can be exploitative, but so can ANY industry – just look at banking! I’d rather work on letting go of shame than denying myself pleasure any day!
good questions. everyone needs to answer these questions together and if they come to a consensus together… it should be for the better… or at least for the term of a a gay relationship which is never verely long anyway
Porn is real….. Interesting comments! I am in a relationships where my lover is more interested in PORN than in me! Does it hurt? Yes! Does he want to admit that it has an impact on our relationship? NO! It is just fantacy… it is not fantacy if your lover is more interested in porn that in you and wanks on his own. it inot a fantacy when you feel the hurt, feel lonely and feel desperate for affectionate and intimate sex!