PRETORIA CHURCH HAS GROUP TO ‘OVERCOME HOMOSEXUALITY’
It’s come to light that a Dutch Reformed Church (NGK) in Pretoria is hosting a regular support group, apparently with the aim of “overcoming” homosexuality.
A member of the Moreleta Park congregation, who asked to remain anonymous, contacted Mambaonline after he was given a pamphlet promoting the group at a church service on Sunday.
The group is called the “H20” or “Homosexuality to Overcome” support group and promises to offer “Jesus’ love and help to homosexual individuals”.
The Moreleta Park church was famously found guilty in 2008 by the Pretoria High Court of unfairly discriminating against Johan Strydom after it fired him as a music teacher from its arts academy because he was gay.
The church was ordered to apologise to Strydom and to pay him almost R87,000 in damages.
The verdict noted that the church “exacerbated the situation” by offering Strydom the opportunity to take part its H2O programme. “This request would have added insult to injury,” said Judge D A Basson.
Mambaonline contacted Ronel Van Dyk, who runs the H2O support group. She said that she had started the group in April and that it was unconnected to the previous H2O programme, except by name “because people remember it and are comfortable with it”.
“I prayed about it. I was not sure if I should start the group. God answered my prayers and told me to start the group,” she told Mambaonline.
She would not say that the group’s intention was to “convert” homosexuals, but “it is what you want out of it. It’s not like we are forcing anything on anyone. It’s not like anyone gets cross. It is on the basis of Christianity.”
Van Dyk, who says that she’s studied counselling, explained that the group is “very relaxed. It’s not like there’s a speech or it’s formal. We drink coffee and talk about what comes up”.
When asked if she believes that homosexuality can be “cured,” she responded that “it depends on the person. I believe that with God anything is possible”.
Van Dyk revealed that two members of the group “had changed their lives” thanks to God, although they had done so before they joined the group.
Mambaonline asked her what kind of impact the pamphlet, which suggests that homosexuality is something to be overcome, could have on a teenager struggling with his or her sexuality.
Van Dyk responded that she did not believe it would have any negative consequences and said that she was available to answer any questions or help such a young person.
There seems to be a recent growth in religious reparative therapy services in South Africa.
In January, the Department of Justice and Constitutional Development slammed a Christian-based Bloemfontein arts training centre that had banned gay students from attending unless they accepted its “ministry to help people that want to change their sexual orientation”.
“The notion that a person’s sexual orientation can be changed at will, or by compulsion, feeds the very same homophobic attitudes that encourage the criminal and abhorrent practice of so-called, ‘corrective rape,’” said the department’s spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga.
In February, it was revealed that Andr� Bekker from New Living Way Ministry, also in Pretoria, was offering a three day seminar promising to “help” people who are living with “unwanted same-sex attraction” and their families.
It is not illegal to offer members of the public “gay cure” or reparative therapy services, although the South African Society of Psychiatrists says that it “opposes any psychiatric treatment such as ‘reparative’ or ‘conversion’ therapy designed to change a person’s sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual”.
It has also warned that this kind of therapy “runs the risk of harming patients by causing depression, anxiety, and self-destructive behaviour”.
There is a focus by LGBT groups on barring reparative therapy when it comes to minors. Last year, the US state of California moved to ban this kind of ‘counselling’ for anyone under the age of 18.
Ronel van Dyk is net NOG n nommer in die ry. As ENIGE IEMAND hulp benodig sal dit Ronel wees. En nice een van haar om te se God het haar gebede beantwoord. Watter God praat sy van want ek en sy bid beslis nie vir dieselfde God nie. My God haat nie en is nie homofobies nie maar my God is wel n God van liefde! Ek spreuk ook MY GOD se genade uit oor Ronel…..maar genoeg genade sodat sy haar pie kan vat en waai! Gou ook!
I cannot say I’m the least bit surprised by those actions. It becomes a huge problem every single time religion interferes in such matters. I’m nore spiritual than religious, for obvious reasons. I think it will further influence intolerant/uninformed people to be more intolerant, violent and discriminative against homosexuals as they’d think “They do it on purpose” . As soon as a heterosexual person can tell me when they chose to be straight, I’ll raise the white flag. Considering that won’t happen, I think they need to get their heads outta their butts and stop this bigotry.
Ek stem saam. Almal is altyd vinnig op die wa om te se “Ons gay mense”. Wie gee die ander persoon die reg om oor my orientasie n opinie uit te spreek. Hoekom moet ek my lewe ly om ander mense tevrede te stel.
Ek het nie gay geword een oggend toe ek wakker geword het nie. Almal is altyd so behep oor wat die Bybel se oor gay wees. Vra eerder die vraag – Wat het die Here daaroor gese. Hy het gese dat ons mekaar moet lief he.
So maak eers jou saak met die Here reg voordat julle vir my kom se hoe ek my lewe moet lei. Miskien is julle bedoelings goed, maar ek ….vol dat dit in ons kele afgedruk word!
I don’t know why Mamba online even aske the question “When asked if she believes that homosexuality can be “cured,” she responded that “it depends on the person. I believe that with God anything is possible”., in retrospect Mamba is almost admitting being Gay could be perceived as a disease. When you ask questions to hypocritical people, they will always have a answer ready. Rather ask Ronel, “when did you decide to be straight” . It would be very likely, she’d have no answer that is sensible.
When Mamba asked the Q, “Mambaonline asked her what kind of impact the pamphlet, which suggests that homosexuality is something to be overcome, could have on a teenager struggling with his or her sexuality.
Van Dyk responded that she did not believe it would have any negative consequences and said that she was available to answer any questions or help such a young person.”,
If Ronel has no idea or can explain how she became straight, she is in no position to give advise to gay people to “convert” to being straight. It is so amazing how people not wearing the “shoe’s” of the other, always have the right answers to everything.